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What is 4 clubs? 2/1 ACBL

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Posted 2014-March-02, 05:46

When did three small in a minor become a suit?
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Posted 2014-March-02, 06:52

View Postkenrexford, on 2014-March-02, 05:46, said:

When did three small in a minor become a suit?

Well, I suspect some time back when 5cM openings began. The ACBL regs seem to think 3cm or 4cM is a suit as well.
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Posted 2014-March-03, 10:16

View Postkenrexford, on 2014-March-02, 05:46, said:

When did three small in a minor become a suit?

A major suit is 4+ cards but can be shaded to 3.
A diamond suit is 3+ cards but can be shaded to 2.
A club suit is 2+ cards but might be anything.

Have you not suggested making a GF 2 response before now with a void "suit" before Ken?
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Posted 2014-March-03, 10:49

View PostZelandakh, on 2014-March-03, 10:16, said:

A major suit is 4+ cards but can be shaded to 3.
A diamond suit is 3+ cards but can be shaded to 2.
A club suit is 2+ cards but might be anything.

Have you not suggested making a GF 2 response before now with a void "suit" before Ken?


Yes, I know. But the discussion about not splintering in partner's "suit" had me laughing. For THOSE purposes, I would hardly consider a minor opening to be based upon the kind of "suit" worthy of respecting enough to not splinter opposite, especially after a bid and raise. While 1-P-1-P-1-P-4 might be debatable, 1-P-major-P-raisemajor-P-4 seems rather silly to protect as needed to support clubs or otherwise different from a diamond splinter in this sequence. Three small is a great holding opposite a splinter, and three small is relatively likely.
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