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#1 User is offline   Antrax 

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Posted 2014-February-19, 12:00

Basic bots.

For completeness' sake, S had AQ8643 J9 AT74 7
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Posted 2014-February-19, 17:26

silly question but why did bot bid 3? there is no chance of slam as partner is passed hand. should just bid 3 or 4
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Posted 2014-February-19, 22:51

Presumably to show two places to play, or keep 3NT in the picture?
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Posted 2014-February-20, 15:13

This a problem auction for the bots. One, they cuebid with X number (11 I believe) of HCP even if partner is balancing, leading to getting way too high. Two, they may have sound stoppers in the opps suit, but they cuebid instead of bidding NT themselves, leaving partner, who has no stopper, to bid a suit and often, as after a double of a weak 2 bid, you get past 3NT.
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Posted 2014-February-20, 20:13

View PostAntrax, on 2014-February-19, 22:51, said:

Presumably to show two places to play, or keep 3NT in the picture?

the only way to 3N is to bid instead of 3.
two places to play? 4? thats not game. 5 unlikely as partner has passed already
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Posted 2014-February-20, 22:56

View Poststeve2005, on 2014-February-19, 17:26, said:

silly question but why did bot bid 3? there is no chance of slam as partner is passed hand. should just bid 3 or 4


A non-forcing 3? Really? With most of the opponents points marked in the South hand, who's going to stop short of game with strong NT strength in back of the opening bidder?

4 - Did I miss where partner promised 4 hearts? And even if partner had 4 hearts, a spade ruff by North could sink 4.

edit: 3 is a GIB special :( I would bid 3NT as the most likely game playing with bots.
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Posted 2014-February-21, 10:56

View PostAntrax, on 2014-February-19, 12:00, said:


For completeness' sake, S had AQ8643 J9 AT74 7

I don't see why 2 should be 15-22 (presumably total points); the given South hand has a clear 2 bid, especially given the vulnerability.
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Posted 2014-February-21, 22:50

Which is why I psyched, really, I didn't even check the bid description until after the hand. However, as you know GIB often thinks a desire to compete shows extra strength rather than just shape.
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