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#1 User is offline   pclayton 

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Posted 2005-February-03, 01:42

ATx
Axxxx
Q9
Jxx

IMP's, long matches. White on red.

1 by pard as dealer. You make a forcing NT call (playing vanilla 2/1). LHO chimes in with 2 and pard makes a 3 call.

This is the 5th session you've played with your partner. Fast arrival sequences after jump shifts are undiscussed.

Whats your call?
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Posted 2005-February-03, 02:04

5s

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Posted 2005-February-03, 02:20

4S, means I would bid 3S (3-card support, 10-11 hcp) had pd not jumped to 3D.
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Posted 2005-February-03, 03:05

If 3S now is forcing, I bid it.

Otherwise I bid 4C, watch pard wiggle, and bid 4S afterwards.
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Posted 2005-February-03, 03:36

whereagles, on Feb 3 2005, 10:05 AM, said:

If 3S now is forcing, I bid it.

Otherwise I bid 4C, watch pard wiggle, and bid 4S afterwards.

Why is 3 forcing, and not suit preference? :P (not sure about this)

I bid 4.
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Posted 2005-February-03, 05:06

4S
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Posted 2005-February-03, 05:28

I like 5S. Pd jumped shift. He should have SKQ, DAKJ and at least one of HK and CA.
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Posted 2005-February-04, 08:40

Partner jump shifted, I have a very good hand with what amounts to 3 aces as I hold the Q of D. I Think 3S is the reight approach and see if partner is able to show a C control. Then I plan to hang him high.
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Posted 2005-February-04, 09:13

5, what else.
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Posted 2005-February-04, 09:14

flytoox, on Feb 3 2005, 11:28 AM, said:

I like 5S. Pd jumped shift. He should have SKQ, DAKJ and at least one of HK and CA.

Agree - if partner has a club control 6S should be laydown and without discussion I think partner will interpret 5S as asking for a club control. Given my hand it is hard for me to imagine him having a hand with no club control, but perhaps he has something like:

KQJxxx
void
AKJ10x
xx

I probably would have bid only 2D with this myself, but I am sure that many players would jump shift.

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Posted 2005-February-04, 09:58

! bid 5 too. At the table I considered 3 and 4, but didn't want to get into a fast arrival vs forced preference discussion. Es[ecially with this pard, makes things as easy as possible.

I gave this hand to a lot of other players; no one thought of 5. I found: QJ9xxx, void, AKJxx, Ax (a bit light, but slam is excellent). Good job posters ;)


Now you get to change seats and play it:

AT7
A6532
Q9
J73

QJ9832
void
AKJ73
A4

Opening lead: spade 4. You choose to win the Ace (if you think low is better, please state why). RHO follows with the 5.

Continue the play.
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Posted 2005-February-04, 10:28

If i make 5, 4, a and a , i'm home.
Since my LHO bid my RHO is more likely to have an extra card in and .
I prefer to play a small . This is right,
if LHO played low from Kx or Kxx, it does no harm, if RHO holds Kx or Kxxx.
So i's only wrong if LHO holds xxx and RHO single K.
This way i stay in control of , so i can try to ruff a small to protect against 5-1, drop a small club on A and make +1.
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Posted 2005-February-04, 12:40

I assume I am playing 6, right? If so, I definitely play low on the first trick. I want to ruff a diamond to protect against them splitting 5-1, and this is safest if I draw exactly 2 rounds of trumps beforehand. It only loses to RHO having singleton K and LHO having a singleton diamond.
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Posted 2005-February-05, 12:20

With a 2 call (since you switched chairs it came from the person on your right), what do you think the chances are that the hand with the 5 diamonds also holds 3 trump?

If you duck the spade, RHO wins the K and shoots back a spade. Frankly, I don't think there's a whole lot of difference between rising with the ace and ducking. LHO (who is very good) wouldn't lead from Kxx. Ducking allows you to control the trumps a little better though. Rising allows you to drop a stiff K now and then (would LHO lead a trump from xxx? You betcha!).

My partner rose with the A; thats really the only reason I mentioned that. But its not the interesting part of this hand anyway.
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Posted 2005-February-05, 13:08

You can actually place a lot of the high cards when RHO (formerly known as LHO in the bidding) plays K. You now know a fair bit about the suit from the bidding and opening lead. Why didn't the opening leader lead his partner's suit? Why weren't s lead to take those quick tricks? We probably now know that leftie does not have KQJxx or QJ10xx. We can probably assume also that rightie does not have 4, they would probably have made a TO double of 1NT showing those 4s.

Hrm, don't know where I am going with this since it is nearly 6am :ph34r:

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