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Best bid I have seen GIB make

#1 User is offline   iandayre 

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Posted 2014-February-17, 16:36

I certainly have seen some ridiculously bad ones, but GIB bid well here:

QTxx, T9xx, Axx, Jx The bidding: 1D Dbl P GIB bid 1S
P 2D P 3H!

Excellent call showing the second suit and decent values having bid 1S the first time. I had an easy 4H call and was one the few reaching that fine contract at IMPS for +12.5. Spade and NT games had no play. My hand Axx, KQJx, x, AKxxx.
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Posted 2014-February-17, 22:15



Looking at the traveller, you should take credit yourself. Others have doubled and then bid 2 which got N declaring 3N. One guy bid 2 over 1 and got to 4 by S, failing to deal with the spade lead. So, it looks what won the hand was double and then cue bid.

Here's one poor guy who didn't get your intelligent GIB:

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Posted 2014-February-18, 00:49

Was this an Instant tourney? That was explain the inconsistent robot behaviour - different robots.

What is the GIB systemic meaning of 2C as bid by others? Does it deny 4x Hearts?
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

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Posted 2014-February-18, 02:13

Yeah, instant tourney so basic bots.

2 after doubling and the 1 response shows 18-21 TP, 3-, rebiddable .
2 as an overcall shows 5+ , 10+ HCP, 11-18 TP.
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Posted 2014-February-18, 09:03

Thank you Antrax. I usually play the 12 board ACBL tourneys but play an 8 board instant during lunch at work sometimes. BTW, I would have no problem making from the other side with a S lead, TJA, AK of C and a ruff sets up the suit, trump. Nothing they can do.
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Posted 2014-February-18, 12:54

View PostAntrax, on 2014-February-18, 02:13, said:

Yeah, instant tourney so basic bots.

2 after doubling and the 1 response shows 18-21 TP, 3-, rebiddable .
2 as an overcall shows 5+ , 10+ HCP, 11-18 TP.


Thanks. Some time I must learn how to look these up other than trying to find an example and mousing over the bid.

Based on the above I personally opine that, without factoring in that CHO is a robot, X then 2C is a better bid than X then 2D. Granted that opposite this CHO, 2D works better, that is only because North failed, in error in my opinion, to seek a H fit after 2C. Indeed the main reason for choosing 1S initially in pref to 1H is to preserve space when later showing the second major. If you are not going to bother to show the 2nd major you might as well respond 1H.

Minor correction though. Instant tourneys do not use basic robots. They are advanced, but possibly a more updated version of advanced than when the original tourney took place. Indeed it is possible that the latest version would look for H fit after 2C.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"

"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-February-18, 15:12

The descriptions are someone's best expression of the standard meaning of those auctions. I play that a cuebid after doubling should be interpreted as 3 card support with more than an Ace better than a minimum double. A new suit by doubler could be completely offshape and may have little or no support for advancer's suit.

With some exceptions I am finding it best to "just play bridge" rather than try to outguess my bot partner.
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Posted 2014-February-18, 23:55

View Post1eyedjack, on 2014-February-18, 12:54, said:

Thanks. Some time I must learn how to look these up other than trying to find an example and mousing over the bid.
Let me know if you do, because that's what I did.

View Postiandayre, on 2014-February-18, 15:12, said:

The descriptions are someone's best expression of the standard meaning of those auctions
That's not true. The descriptions are what the bot understands from your bidding. If you "just play bridge" you will confuse the bots. That's not to say it's bad strategy, but just so you understand what it is you're doing.
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