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#1 User is offline   SNTSNT7 

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Posted 2014-February-14, 21:25

North (Dealer)
S Q4
H ----
D KQ109
C AKQJ1082

South
S AK5
H J10762
D AJ8
C 65
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Posted 2014-February-14, 21:59

YOU CAN debate 2c or one club

If 2clubs perhaps:

2c=2d
3c=3h
4c=5nt?


3c=long clubs 3 loser hand
now south knows...grand is very very close.

at this point to keep it simple south might bid 5nt as grand slam force.

I fully grant this is a rather simple approach.
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Posted 2014-February-14, 22:02

4C just showing long Clubs? What are the following bids?
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Posted 2014-February-14, 22:14

How can South know that N is void in Hearts?
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Posted 2014-February-14, 22:48

For me, this is just short of a 2 opening.

This would mean the bidding goes

1 - 1
2 - 2/2N(*)
3 - 3N
4 - 4(**)
5(***) - 7

The 7 bid is a bit of a gamble, but partner was committing to small slam without knowing you have more than an ace and a king, and you have two aces and a king.

(*) Over a reverse, it's common to agree either to play 2N or the cheaper of 2N and the 4th suit as a weakness showing bid (so that all bids at the 3 level can be game forcing). If 2N is the weakness showing bid, then 2 (fourth suit forcing) is right here. If 2 is weakness showing, then 2N (which would be forcing to game) is the right bid.
(**) Surely this is a cue in support of clubs. 4 would be less clear; if certain partner would take it as a cue and not an offer to play, it's a better bid (and makes the subsequent auction better).
(***) Of course this shows 1st round control - it commits to small slam and hence has to be looking for grand. And probably a void - otherwise partner would use blackwood.
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Posted 2014-March-03, 03:49

1C-1H-3C-3NT would be the most likely start to this. From there it's system-dependent, but I would bid 4NT if my partner knew it was not a quant invite to 6NT.

Also, if it starts 1C-1H-3C, South has to feel like 3NT is a massive underbid, so perhaps he bids Blackwood.

Either way this is a good challenge hands for newer/average partnerships to get to 6C and for advanced partnerships to find 7C.

I strongly recommend that beginners never, ever bid 7 of anything unless it's an absolute certainty on simple bidding. This will happen maybe once every 1,000 deals.

An example: your partner opens the bidding with 1H and you hold:

AKQJ953
K7
AKQ
7

Partner opened and you're staring at a solid spade suit and 22 HCP. Ask him how many aces he has and bid either 6 or 7 (or 7NT) depending on his answer.
There is a big difference between a good decision and a good result. Let's keep our posts about good decisions rather than "gotcha" results!
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