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Posted 2014-February-08, 15:00

for the ACBL convention card please change the puppet Stayman to be in black in its 2 spots 1N & 2N.
It is no longer alertable so shouldn't be in red. been so for over a year.

his will quickly solve some arguments when a person thinks it is alertable.
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Posted 2014-February-08, 15:17

This is fixed now.

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Posted 2014-February-08, 16:48

wow such prompt service ! lol
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Posted 2014-February-08, 19:43

1N - 3♣ is alerted.


1N 2♣ is not alerted, rebids by opener are.
2N 3♣ is not alerted, rebids by opener are.
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Posted 2014-February-08, 22:26

The checkboxes for Puppet Stayman on the CC are for 1NT-2♣ and 2NT-3♣. These are the auctions that became non-alertable last year, so I changed them from red to black as requested.

1NT-3♣ is just a text field that you fill in with the meaning. It's alertable no matter what the meaning (even if it's natural, I think), and I left it red.

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Posted 2014-February-09, 14:59

View Postbarmar, on 2014-February-08, 22:26, said:

1NT-3♣ is just a text field that you fill in with the meaning. It's alertable no matter what the meaning (even if it's natural, I think), and I left it red.


This isn't correct. In the "Not Alerted" section of the chart for "Responses to NT Opening Bids and NT Overcalls" is "Three-level natural responses whether or not it is a jump response".
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Posted 2014-February-09, 23:30

You're right. To confirm, the Alert Procedure says:

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6) 3♣,♦,♥,♠: If natural, they are not Alertable. All other uses must be Alerted


The CC doesn't have a way to specify that the alertability of a bid depends on the meaning. The standard ACBL CC has all these lines red.
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