[Gerardo]

If you have problems:

• Which version of Windows do you have?
  
• Which version of Internet Explorer do you have?
  
• Do you have Office 2000 or XP installed?
  
• Does this Arial font help? [should not be needed for 2000 and XP]

[kgr]

No problem with IE, but with MS Word:

When I copy card symbols clubs, diamonds, hearts and spades from a Web
site into MS Word (MS word 2000 9.0.7616 SP-3)
Then clubs, Hearts and Spades are displayed correctly, but the Diamond
symbols are converted to small squares.
After copying these symbols the style is resp. Clubs, Diamonds, Hearts
and spades and the font is 'Book Antiqua'.

[Gerardo]

♠♥♦♣

• Who does not see this one?
  
• Even after downloading font mentioned above?

If you DO see it, buzz if size is wrong (maybe too small compared with the others)

[Jangvik]

Hi Gerardo. The size is wrong to me. It is about half the size compared to the rest of the symbols.

My system is Windox XP prof. service pack 2, english, IE 6.0

[Rebound]

The only place I have seen any anomolies is on this site. In the example above they all show up, but ♦ show up as small orange rectangles.

[kgr]

Quote

When I copy card symbols clubs, diamonds, hearts and spades from a Web
site into MS Word (MS word 2000 9.0.7616 SP-3)
Then clubs, Hearts and Spades are displayed correctly, but the Diamond
symbols are converted to small squares.
After copying these symbols the style is resp. Clubs, Diamonds, Hearts
and spades and the font is 'Book Antiqua'.

... i only have this problem if I copy paste from this web site. EG. copy paste in MSWord from http://www.rpbridge.net/7a49.htm gives no problem.

[Gerardo]

That's because currently used symbol is not the diamonds one, due to the size problem, but one similar, which is not included in the font you use.

Those who has this problem, please check this page, scroll down looking for "diams". How do you see that symbol?

[inquiry]

Gerardo, on Dec 23 2004, 03:25 PM, said:

That's because currently used symbol is not the diamonds one, due to the size problem, but one similar, which is not included in the font you use.

Those who has this problem, please check this page, scroll down looking for "diams". How do you see that symbol?

Looks like a diamond on the page you posted, looks like an orange square on this page.

Ben

[Gerardo]

Ben, what about the black diamond on this page?

[inquiry]

Gerardo, on Dec 23 2004, 06:07 PM, said:

Ben, what about the black diamond on this page?

a black diamond

[Gerardo]

♠♥♦♣
♠♥♦♣
♠♥♦♣

[inquiry]

Gerardo, on Dec 24 2004, 02:59 AM, said:

♠♥♦♣
♠♥♦♣
♠♥♦♣

All these look great.

[kgr]

Gerardo,

I did post this question on rgb and found out that the Word problem I have is only related to this site. This is one of the responses:

The sqaures you see just indicate that it's an
unrecognized character code.

The guy has used a funny character entity for
encoding diamonds in his html text. He has used
the correct entities for other suits:

♠ spades
♣ clubs
♥ hearts

but instead of using &diams for diamonds, he
has used &#9674. This is the code for a lozonge.
It does look like a tiny diamond.

MS Word tries to map these character entities
to its Misc Dingbats symbol set, which doesn't
seem to have the lozenge character; hence the
square showing that it couldn't diplay/print
the character.

I tried it with WordPerfect. It mapped the
lozenge to a plot symbol that looks like a
diamond, but is a bit bigger. That's perhaps
what Excel also does.

You shouldn't have this kind of problem with
any other web page. In fact, the suit symbols
in various fonts are so crummy that most
serious bridge web sites make up their own
suit symbols.

[rona_]

♦ I have the same system and stuff that janqvik has and up until yesterday saw diamonds in forums as orange squares. Today I see diamonds but a little smaller than the other symbols. Strangely enough, in another country, with exactly the same system as the one I have here, diamonds were normal.

[Gerardo]

Diamonds are now the proper symbol, so cut and paste should work fine (kgr, looked at Pavlicek's page, suits are graphics, not text).
Problem: Some Internet Explorers will see it smaller than the other suits. Why? Don't know
I installed two Win98 side by side, one sees it fine (this has the font I mentioned above), the other doesn't (this one is fully patched and it has Office XP installed, which has its own set of fonts).
However, should be not too hard to fix (I think) once the problem is identified.
Also, it should be no more orange squares, only diamonds or smaller diamonds (from now on, older symbols are to stay, at least for now). Is there anyone who do NOT see diamonds on this page?
Sorry to the people who see it small (particularly who reported it, DJNEill, jangvik and rona_).