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A spade after a heart What do you play and how?

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Posted 2013-December-24, 13:24

After the 1 opening bid some people:

1. Support hearts with support and forget about holding 4+ Spades unless they have a good hand.
2. Bid Spades with 4+ no matter the point count.

How do you cope with bidding spades and then supporting hearts with 6-10 or 11-12 HCP's?

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For example?

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2013-December-24, 13:48

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-December-24, 13:24, said:

After the 1 opening bid some people:

1. Support hearts with support and forget about holding 4+ Spades unless they have a good hand.

Do that.

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2. Bid Spades with 4+ no matter the point count.

Don't do that.
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Posted 2013-December-24, 14:10

The way to bid spades is to raise whatever major partner bids. He opened One Heart so bid Two Hea r s. If he then bids Two Spades bid Three Spades.
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Posted 2013-December-25, 15:57

View PostHanoi5, on 2013-December-24, 13:24, said:

After the 1 opening bid some people:

1. Support hearts with support and forget about holding 4+ Spades unless they have a good hand.
2. Bid Spades with 4+ no matter the point count.

How do you cope with bidding spades and then supporting hearts with 6-10 or 11-12 HCP's?

Jxxx
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For example?


This depends on style. If 1-2 is a constructive raise, I'll do that on the quoted hand. If 1-2 is normally weaker than this hand, I'll respond 1. If I have a 2m gadget to show a good 3-card raise to 2 I'll use that.
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Posted 2014-January-06, 07:39

I believe I have no serious problems bidding spades first, then hearts. How many hearts I bid depends on what opener rebids.

If he bids 1NT(12-14) then 2 is 6-10 and 3 11/12. (This hand 2)
If he bids 2 (any 15+ or 11-14 5 clubs) I bid 2 with 6/7 or the 2 relay with 8+ and then ..
..over 2(weak 5-5) pass with a normal 8-10, raise to 3 with a normal 11/12 (with the given hand this is practically a 4 raise)
..over 2(15/16 3 card support) bid 3, or 4 with 10+ (this hand 4)
..over a 15/16 2NT+ bid again 3 or 4 (this hand 4)
..over a 17+ we are at least game in hearts
If he bids 2(11-14 natural) then 2 is 6-10 and 3 11/12.
If he bids 2(6 card) then 3 or 4 on 11/12
If he bids n(4 card support) then we play in spades.

Partner with no great strength and a 45xx shape will open 1 and pass 2. I would rather play in a 4-4 spade fit than a 5-3 heart fit. Bidding spades first with 4 loses nothing (other than the ability to use a 2 to play in 2 on a declined game invitation with 11/12) and it helps in allowing a spade rebid by opener to mean something special when you have denied a 4 card spade suit.

4+? I can't understand supporting hearts when you have 5 spades.
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