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#1 User is offline   kenberg 

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Posted 2014-January-01, 14:53



Mps, no one vul. Partner opens 1NT. It may not be everyone's choice but I transferred to spades and passed. In fact we can take nine tricks in either major, but they can take nine tricks in diamonds so even if we double 4, playing in spades is better. My general view is that with this much shape bidding 2 makes it too easy for them to get in.

Anyway, in later discussion partner mentioned that playing with someone else he hald a hand much lie this one, he bid 2, and indeed they did come in. I think he said it went:

1NT-Pass-2-X
2-3-?

There is a recent thread where it is asserted, and I agreed, that in competitive auctions bidding 3 over 3 is simply competitive, but usually that is when the trump suit has been established. What would you make of a 3 bid here? It was at least partly to avoid such problems that I skipped over Stayman and just transferred.
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Posted 2014-January-01, 16:15

On such a hand as this slow heart losers go away on minor suit winners and a bad split with hearts as trumps is not a factor so unless you were going to invite a light game I'm 100% with the transfer to spades.
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Posted 2014-January-01, 16:25

Best to treat this hand as weak with so a transfer is right. The Q is not working.

Change to KJ10xxx Qxxx x xx and I would bit 2 Stayman. Then over partner's 2 response, I'd risk a 4 Delayed Texas transfer to . 6.5 losers opposite 1NT should play for game.
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Posted 2014-January-01, 18:59

View PostSteveMoe, on 2014-January-01, 16:25, said:

Best to treat this hand as weak with so a transfer is right. The Q is not working.

Change to KJ10xxx Qxxx x xx and I would bit 2 Stayman. Then over partner's 2!D response, I'd risk a 4 Delayed Texas transfer to . 6.5 losers opposite 1NT should play for game.


Right. That's stronger and if they come in over 2, as likely they will, I am fine with driving it to 4 and letting the chips fall as they may.
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Posted 2014-January-01, 20:04

The transfer here is vastly superior to stayman for a couple of reasons. Avoiding the

opps coming in at a low level is one the other (maybe even more important) is that the

worst case scenario you have a 8 card spade fit opposite a 8 card heart fit that plays

better. Using stayman it maybe possible to lose out on a ten card spade fit in favor of

a 8 card heart fit (ackkkkkkkkkkkkkkk) so avoiding this problem is even more important

than worring about the opps getting in at a low level:)))))))))))))))))))



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Posted 2014-February-17, 10:06

Over a strong NT I am also in favour of the simple transfer. Over a weak NT, Texas or a direct 4 would probably be a common response. In your auction I think a sensible way of playing after 3 would be for 3M to be competitive and X to ask for a 3 card major fragment. Partner can hardly have a penalty pass here if 2 denied a club stopper.
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Posted 2014-February-20, 07:25

The hand has 8 losers. A strong NT has an average of 4 cover cards, so 9 tricks is statistically the limit.

Just transfer to spades. If pard happens to superaccept, there are good chances of 5 cover cards across, so if it happens, bid game.
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