[Vampyr]

32519, on 2014-March-15, 13:08, said:

I am going to ask gwnn, PassedOut, or mikeh to answer your question for you. I know what the answer is, but coming from me, you won't accept it. Coming from one of them, maybe you will.

Because they all work at the LHC? LOL!!!!

Seriously, I am dying to hear the reason. Tell me.

[PassedOut]

Vampyr, on 2014-March-15, 13:27, said:

Because they all work at the LHC? LOL!!!!

Seriously, I am dying to hear the reason. Tell me.

Me too, but we can be sure that if Andrew really had a basis for his claim he'd post it. For what it's worth, one of my best friend's daughters actually worked on the LHC last year, but I wouldn't dream of bothering her with this foolishness.

[Vampyr]

PassedOut, on 2014-March-15, 15:24, said:

Me too, but we can be sure that if Andrew really had a basis for his claim he'd post it. For what it's worth, one of my best friend's daughters actually worked on the LHC last year, but I wouldn't dream of bothering her with this foolishness.

That is so cool.

[32519]

PassedOut, on 2014-March-15, 15:24, said:

For what it's worth, one of my best friend's daughters actually worked on the LHC last year, but I wouldn't dream of bothering her with this foolishness.

1. Was her involvement bona fides or was it through you?
2. What was her contribution?
3. Why was it so short?
4. Did she get paid in USD or Bitcoin (or a mix of the two)?

[mike777]

32519, on 2014-March-15, 23:32, said:

1. Was her involvement bona fides or was it through you?
2. What was her contribution?
3. Why was it so short?
4. Did she get paid in USD or Bitcoin (or a mix of the two)?

wow can I get KenR or artk or MikeH as my lawyer?
and bridge partner as s sidenote?

[32519]

Faceless power rules in furtive finance era

[PassedOut]

32519, on 2014-March-15, 23:32, said:

1. Was her involvement bona fides or was it through you?
2. What was her contribution?
3. Why was it so short?
4. Did she get paid in USD or Bitcoin (or a mix of the two)?

Big year for ducks.

[32519]

Vampyr, on 2014-March-15, 13:27, said:

Seriously, I am dying to hear the reason. Tell me.

The short answer is really quite obvious.

Funding of the LHC is already at an astronomical figure of 9 billion Euros; funds are running out which has led to a reduction in the number of physicists working on the project. Some have left on their own accord while others have been cut from the project, and still zero progress has been made towards giving substance to the BBT. Paying some of them in bitcoin can keep them around a bit longer. When the stock market comes down (the primary source of current funding), those who are hiding deepest in the shadows and the ultimate driving force behind the LHC, are going to be hard pressed indeed to keep the project going, but more importantly, to pay the salaries of those they still want working on the LHC.

The long answer will probably cover two full A4 size pages.

[Vampyr]

Love it.

[Zelandakh]

32519, on 2014-March-17, 10:56, said:

and still zero progress has been made towards giving substance to the BBT.

You do not think the possible discovery of the Higgs boson is progress?

[Vampyr]

Zelandakh, on 2014-March-18, 04:55, said:

You do not think the possible discovery of the Higgs boson is progress?

I think that "possible" is an underbid.

[Zelandakh]

Vampyr, on 2014-March-18, 05:16, said:

I think that "possible" is an underbid.

True, but I wanted to be scientifically accurate. The discovered particle has been shown to have the expected properties but that does not automatically mean that it is the same thing. Science tends to move slowly - that is why the discovery of this particle is generally regarded as so important; and why I found 32519's statement particularly unusual.

[Vampyr]

Zelandakh, on 2014-March-18, 06:39, said:

I found 32519's statement particularly unusual.

Not unusual for him, though. He hates science, so scientific progress is worthless in his eyes.

[mycroft]

32519, on 2014-March-17, 10:56, said:

The long answer will probably cover two full A4 size pages.

Or one A3 size page?

[Vampyr]

mycroft, on 2014-March-18, 11:36, said:

Or one A3 size page?

Or 1/2 of an A2, but since 325 is inventing this stuff out of whole cloth, I suppose he could go on for as little or as long as inspiration allowed. I do hope he will favour us with the long answer. I love this stuff; I can't seem to help myself.

[barmar]

Vampyr, on 2014-March-18, 07:02, said:

Not unusual for him, though. He hates science, so scientific progress is worthless in his eyes.

I wonder what he thinks of the announcement this week of the discovery of gravitational waves that confirm the inflationary theory of the Big Bang.

http://arstechnica.c...-gravity-waves/

[PassedOut]

barmar, on 2014-March-18, 12:49, said:

I wonder what he thinks of the announcement this week of the discovery of gravitational waves that confirm the inflationary theory of the Big Bang.

http://arstechnica.c...-gravity-waves/

Thanks for the link.

[32519]

Anyone actually believe this crap about Participation and Funding of CERN? The list for 2012 includes Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal - all countries under severe financial austerity measures. So where do you think they are going to find the money for vanity projects that benefit mankind a big fat zero?

The situation in Greece is so bad that Greece is to sell off historic buildings to settle debt.

Higher up I said that 9 billion Euros had already been wasted by CERN on projects like the LHC. Read the whole article - the annual LHC running cost is $1 billion. Seems like I got it hopelessly wrong. According to this article, published on July 5 2012, Finding the Higgs Boson cost $13.25 billion. Another two years has almost passed, so we need to add another $2 billion to the total cost. And still they only "THINK" they have found the Higgs Boson, something they need to give credence to all these stupid THEORIES of theirs. How about someone updating the Wikipedia article with actual cost until 31 December 2013, plus the budget for 2014?

The squandering of money to this extent to give credence to a THEORY is truly apalling. You come and tell me - How do these THEORIES benefit mankind?

[StevenG]

32519, on 2014-March-21, 01:45, said:

You come and tell me - How do these THEORIES benefit mankind?

How does knowledge benefit mankind when we manage so well in a state of ignorance? A tough question ...

[32519]

32519, on 2014-March-21, 01:45, said:

So where do you think they are going to find the money for vanity projects that benefit mankind a big fat zero?

If you don't know what vanity means, read the link. Here is an extract -
1: something that is vain, empty, or valueless