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#1 User is offline   cherdano 

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Posted 2013-November-27, 17:59


The easiest way to count losers is to line up the people who talk about loser count, and count them. -Kieran Dyke
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Posted 2013-November-27, 18:13

4s is a slam try - 4h set trumps
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Posted 2013-November-27, 19:46

I would assume it is NF and partner bid 3H since he wanted us to look at our hearts/know that hearts was important for slam since 2H does not necessarily show hearts. For instance with 6 very good spades and 5 mediocre hearts I would want to play in spades but would wan to focus on hearts, if I just bid 3S over 2S partner would not know I had real hearts.

I guess "help suit slam try" woulda been more concise :P
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Posted 2013-November-27, 23:57

Probably I am still in the stone age but I would have thought 3♥ was non forcing and you need to bid 3♣ with a GF.
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Posted 2013-November-28, 04:17

I would say its natural showing 3♥s and 2♠. With that major suit holdings and a stiff club it feels natural to give a preference to 2♠ at first, but after 3♥ you really want to play in your best fit.
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Posted 2013-November-28, 04:21

View Postthe_clown, on 2013-November-28, 04:17, said:

I would say its natural showing 3♥s and 2♠. With that major suit holdings and a stiff club it feels natural to give a preference to 2♠ at first.

Would'd you bid a 7-card diamond suit once more? It looks to me as if N is 2362.
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Posted 2013-November-28, 04:36

what is 2 hearts?
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Posted 2013-November-28, 11:56

View PostWGF_Flame, on 2013-November-28, 04:36, said:

what is 2 hearts?

I think this is a double-fit auction.
2S should show 3 cards ♠ regardless what 2H meant .
3H quite possibly shows a 5-5 in the majors and a game-try if you will .
4H says: " I also have 3 cards ♥ and offers a choice of games.
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Posted 2013-November-28, 19:04

Is it normal to give false preference to 2♠ with, say, 2362 on this auction?

P.S.: This was a first time partnership, but certainly 2♥ was forcing.
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Posted 2013-November-28, 19:32

View Postcherdano, on 2013-November-28, 19:04, said:

Is it normal to give false preference to 2♠ with, say, 2362 on this auction?

P.S.: This was a first time partnership, but certainly 2♥ was forcing.


Depends on your hand but yeah. If you have heart/club stoppers then you can bid 2N, if you have great diamonds and 2 small spades maybe 3D, but I'd say 2S is the most likely bid with that shape.
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Posted 2013-November-29, 03:52

View Posthelene_t, on 2013-November-28, 04:21, said:

Would'd you bid a 7-card diamond suit once more? It looks to me as if N is 2362.


Sure, counting to 13 is sometimes hard.
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