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#1 User is offline   jillybean 

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Posted 2013-November-04, 19:32

I think we are playing the standard Lightner double where double of a slam contract asks for the lead of dummy's first bid suit or declarers side suit and NOT to lead any suit we have bid.

What I am interested in is how others handle artificial bids?

If opponents are playing a strong club system, auctions starting 1S 2C* gf balanced etc, do you treat clubs as the first bid suit or declarers side suit?
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Posted 2013-November-04, 23:21

A useful meta-agreement is that if you treat it as a suit when it happens, you treat it as a suit at Lightner time too, and vice-versa. For me, that means 1S-2C* is still clubs, a Polish 1C not followed by a strong rebid is still clubs, a Precision 1C isn't... an auction like 1C-1H(spades)-blah blah-6D, spades is responder's first bid suit, etc.
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Posted 2013-November-04, 23:24

Is that standard? I have always just played that it asks for an unusual lead and partner has to figure out which one.
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Posted 2013-November-05, 00:22

View Postnigel_k, on 2013-November-04, 23:24, said:

Is that standard? I have always just played that it asks for an unusual lead and partner has to figure out which one.


I think dummy's first bid suit, declarers side suit is standard in NA, partner can also infer what to lead if partner does not double.
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Posted 2013-November-05, 02:09

Most of the time, Lightner simply says "I have a trick 1 ruff coming. You work out where that is".

If you are on lead with 5 cards in a side suit bid by declarer, then that might be as good a bet as any.

Lightner doubles tend to be against slam contracts. You can also use doubles of 3N contracts to indicate a stack of bad breaks over dummy, which would strongly imply leading through dummy's suit is the way to go. But I would not have described that as Lightner.
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Posted 2013-November-05, 09:46

NVM
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