[deep]

5°Major diamond 4°
1° question

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what better bid South? North can have 4♣ because with 4♦ and 4♣ open 1♦. Now is better forzing with 2♣ or 2♠ or another?

2° question

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Now South can enter in bid with 1♠ or better pass?

3° Question

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South can bid 3♠ for ♥ and minor? This is the convention possible for my sistem but in 4° ranking is better or not?

Sorry for my bad english. Ty at all help me

[ggwhiz]

1. Partner has a balanced min opener and a lot of points that are not diamonds. I would just bid 3nt.

2. Poor suit quality and marginal values I'm passing. If they limit their hands with 1nt or 2♣/♥ passed back to me I'm coming in with 2♠. Partner is marked with some high cards here but won't get excited and bid too high because of my first pass.

3. 3♥ for me although it may not work out forcing to the 4-level is just too much on these cards.

[trevahound]

deep, on 2013-October-16, 14:28, said:

5°Major diamond 4°
1° question

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what better bid South? North can have 4♣ because with 4♦ and 4♣ open 1♦. Now is better forzing with 2♣ or 2♠ or another?

2° question

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Now South can enter in bid with 1♠ or better pass?

3° Question

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South can bid 3♠ for ♥ and minor? This is the convention possible for my sistem but in 4° ranking is better or not?

Sorry for my bad english. Ty at all help me

1st is difficult not knowing what you play. If you have an unambiguous GF unsure of strain, I'm in for that, with one diamond try before 3nt. With problems ahead in the auction because of unclear agreements, I'm in for a practical 3nt.

2nd one is an easy (not even close) pass for me, but many very good players will disagree.

3rd one: either X or 2nt here should include hands like this, with 2 places to play. Undiscussed, I'd assume 2nt showed either minors or hearts and a minor. Partner bids as if it's minors, without an exceptional hand. Gets both your suits in below 3s, and shows values if partner wants to hit something later.

Cheers,

Brian Zaugg

[gszes]

1. 3d forcing (and by extension looking for slam) this hand is worth around
19 and if p has a dia fit slam will take very little and 5d would be unbeatable
on many hands were 3n goes down. Yes 3n is probably the right spot but it
can hardly hurt to try and improve my score with such a good hand and I can
do this below 3n a win-win.

2. Im a big chicken and would pass with this dreck between two bidding opps.
I prefer to trust my parnter's pass out bidding skills to my getting lucky and
surviving my 1s overcall.

3. I prefer x here. I would have no problems if p wanted to convert 2s X to penalty
since I have 3+ defensive tricks. If our partnership uses leb (recommended) under these
conditions I will also get a strong indication right away as to the power p has
this will keep 5c in the picture much more than a 2n (2 places to play) or even
a michaels bid will.

[Zelandakh]

Hand 1 depends on system. Is 2♣ Checkback; is 2♦ artificial GF? Is 3♦ GF or invitational? If there is a bid to show diamonds and a GF hand then it seems obvious to use it; but only if that is not going to take us past 3NT too often on unsuitable hands.

On Hand 2 it is obvious to me to prefer Pass over 1♠. 1♠ does not take up any space so the upside of this is minimal. I would actually prefer 2♠ to 1♠ but Pass remains the best option.

System also matters on Hand 3. Is 2NT always minors or simply 2 places to play? Assuming the latter, that would be my choice. I want (even) more before committing to 3♠. There is an argument that such hands are so rare it might be better to use 3♠ as a stopper ask, thereby handling hands with a long running minor and no spade stop. Not that these are common either. You can always use 4m overcalls as Leaping Michaels (strong hand with hearts + minor bid) if you are worried about it.

This last auction ((1♠) - P - (2♠)) is one that regularly gets attention here. An interesting idea that originated from Ken Rexford is to play 2NT = clubs or diamonds or competitive with hearts; 3♣ = clubs and hearts; 3♦ = diamonds and hearts; 3♥ = good overcall in hearts. Double now handles the hands with both minors as well as 3-suited takeouts. In responding to the double, 2NT shows hearts, meaning that you do not get too high with the minors. If playing this then Hand 3 is an obvious 3♣ overcall, showing both suits in one go.

[MrAce]

1- Zel said it

2-If you make a spade overcall it will be an aggressive one. Matter of taste and how much your pdship is prepared for taking actions like this.

3-I would show 2 suiter hand. Some do it via 3♠, some play 2NT here showing any 2 suiter. Whichever in your system. I know it will force you to play at 4 level and you have doubts about it, but it is still better to shoot in the dark and bid one of your reds at 3 level and expect to get lucky. Or better than passing with this collection of reds. After all your LHO may be about to jump to 4♠ when your side has a good save or a making game at 4-5 level.

[kenrexford]

Zelandakh, on 2013-October-17, 05:04, said:

This last auction ((1♠) - P - (2♠)) is one that regularly gets attention here. An interesting idea that originated from Ken Rexford is to play 2NT = clubs or diamonds or competitive with hearts; 3♣ = clubs and hearts; 3♦ = diamonds and hearts; 3♥ = good overcall in hearts. Double now handles the hands with both minors as well as 3-suited takeouts. In responding to the double, 2NT shows hearts, meaning that you do not get too high with the minors. If playing this then Hand 3 is an obvious 3♣ overcall, showing both suits in one go.

This isn't standard yet?!?!?

[ahydra]

1) 3NT - you make slam opposite the perfect hand, but as we all know, partner never has the perfect hand

2) pass, this is a rubbish hand

3) X, as others have suggested. 3S forces you to the 4-level which is too committal with plenty of losers in your hand.

ahydra

[Zelandakh]

kenrexford, on 2013-October-30, 07:22, said:

This isn't standard yet?!?!?

Working on it Ken - I am sure I have posted the idea at least a half dozen times since you wrote it up. Have also posted about the possibility of using the same structure at the 4 level, although that has some disadvantages since the loss of 4NT scramble after a double of 4♠ is more costly than losing 2NT.

[kenrexford]

Zelandakh, on 2013-November-02, 07:05, said:

Working on it Ken - I am sure I have posted the idea at least a half dozen times since you wrote it up. Have also posted about the possibility of using the same structure at the 4 level, although that has some disadvantages since the loss of 4NT scramble after a double of 4♠ is more costly than losing 2NT.

I added a write up into this month's local newsletter available at www.limadbc.bligspot.com next week. Hopefully this will be the new Stayman!

[jillybean]

1. I play gf 1m 2m does not deny a 4 card major so I don't have this problem. (now I will duck for cover)

2&3 what others have said.