[lycier]

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Today I look on Ron Klinger bidding training.their comments at below:


lmilne→table: I've always played that 3♦ is the waiting bid in this auction so repeating the major is always 6.
ardek→table: OK, I have always played that repeating the first suit is the waiting bid.
lmilne→table: fair enough,3♦ by you would always be 55 then?
ardek→table: Yes

how do you think of it?

(bwt,ardek is Ron Klinger, a famous Austrulia expert,lmilne is a young man with 24 years old)

[ahydra]

Well, it was fine up until N bid 5H... why did he do that, and not 4H the previous round? (North might also consider 4C, natural, over 2D - to show a GF two-suiter)

I play the way Klinger does, with minimum rebid in opener's first suit = nothing to add to what I've said already (no stop in clubs, no fifth diamond, no third spade). It's worth discussing what 4H is here though - it clearly shows at least 6-4, but is it min or max?

ahydra

[Zelandakh]

It is a matter of agreement. You can play that the major has priority, so that the minor is always the waiting bid; or that the original suit is always the waiting bid; or that the lowest step is the waiting bid irrespective of major/minor; or that either can be minimum length and you decide based on suit quality. Maybe there are other variations too, and obviously you can cherry-pick different agreements for different auctions if you have a serious enough partnership for that.

On the given hand, I would certainly have chosen 3♦ rather than 3♥ without an agreement to the contrary (irrespective of Klinger's choice). That is partly because I think using the cheapest call as a grope in cramped auctions is the best agreement in cases like this - as far as I remember, Klinger is also an advocate of this approach (but presumably not in this auction!) 4♣ would be the alternative for me (and not 3♥). We are prepared to play spades opposite 6 with the queen as support if partner has that hand type, and if not we either have a red suit fit or clubs are wide open.

To me though, the choice of Opener's third bid is not the only problem here. We also have to consider what the 4♣ bid showed in comparison with the alternatives of 3♠ (and also ahydra's direct 4♣, which is not necessarily natural). All-in-all, it rather looks like N-S were essentially playing different systems and need to sit down and make some agreements. This should not be about blame but rather about coming to a consensus on a consistent method that both are happy with.

[mcphee]

Partner has stepped up with 4th suit and we are in a difficult spot for a re-bid now. To be honest I sort of like 3S even though I hold just 1, it leaves all doors open and does not always indicate 2+ trumps. I view this sort of problem as "it's not my fault I have this hand". For me 3C is a good hand and we will discover where we are going soon enough.