[wank]

lead? matchpoints. partner is me.

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[Trinidad]

♦A, expecting to give partner a ruff in trick 2.

Rik

[billw55]

Why did I bid 4♦?

[DJNeill]

♦A, likely ruff for partner.

I might get a useful club ruff even if partner doesn't get a diamond ruff. Slight possibility of a promotion in H if both pd and opp have singleton ♦.

There are a lot of HCP in the deck too. Not sure what partner is doubling on when he could not make a responsive cue, or open 3C and not have heart length.

[Endymion77]

> Why did I bid 4♦?

Trying to turn -140 into -300 probably.

I guess the answer is ♦3 for partner to ruff and return a club, but in reality ♦A lead seems rather obvious.

[wanoff]

3♦
Partner hasn't many points, doesn't know I hold the Ace so it won't be a singleton.
Also I don't want to set up the King for a discard.

[the hog]

A of D. I agree 4D is a bad bid.

[wanoff]

billw55, on 2013-September-04, 06:31, said:

Why did I bid 4♦?

Because if partner holds as much as xxxx,x,xxx,xxxxx there is a good save.

[benlessard]

wanoff, on 2013-September-05, 02:40, said:

Because if partner holds as much as xxxx,x,xxx,xxxxx there is a good save.

If partner got this he should double 3D to suggest a save. Some play that X show values or lead directing here ... I beg you please keep playing that way against me especially when im Vul and you are NV.

Double should be lightner.. so 3d

[gnasher]

Why didn't I bid 4♦ over 1♥? I know I'm 3-3 in the majors, but everything else is right: favourable vulnerability, passed partner, lots of diamonds, and enough defence to hope that if they bid over 4M♦ they'll be too high.

[billw55]

gnasher, on 2013-September-06, 01:19, said:

Why didn't I bid 4♦ over 1♥? I know I'm 3-3 in the majors, but everything else is right: favourable vulnerability, passed partner, lots of diamonds, and enough defence to hope that if they bid over 4M♦ they'll be too high.

If you are willing to hope that 4♥ is too high without hearing anything from partner, you must be pretty optimistic now that he has doubled it.

[gnasher]

billw55, on 2013-September-06, 06:08, said:

If you are willing to hope that 4♥ is too high without hearing anything from partner, you must be pretty optimistic now that he has doubled it.

Yes, I'm expecting at least 500. He probably has something like Jxxxx xx x AKxxx.

[sathya]

gnasher, on 2013-September-06, 06:41, said:

Yes, I'm expecting at least 500. He probably has something like Jxxxx xx x AKxxx.

That's quite some bidding by your opponents. Missing AK, A, A, all of which are likely cashing and only an 8-card fit, they've taken the push to 4♥ on those cards ?

[PhilKing]

sathya, on 2013-September-08, 12:23, said:

That's quite some bidding by your opponents. Missing AK, A, A, all of which are likely cashing and only an 8-card fit, they've taken the push to 4♥ on those cards ?

They didn't take the push - only East did. Perhaps West opened light in 3rd and his partner buried him.

Having said that, the bidding does worry me, and I expect both pard and lefty to be short in diamonds, but with pard holding xx in hearts. I'm leading a trump.

[beatrix45]

♠9. Partner is marked with at most two hearts - possibly one. I have the ace of hearts, so getting a diamond ruff opposite a singleton is only lost if partner has a stiff heart. That would leave her with eleven black cards and having never bid. The double sounds more like a few black high cards and an optimistic nature. The alternative is my lowest diamond. If it takes that to beat the hand, then partner is doubling too much.

[gnasher]

sathya, on 2013-September-08, 12:23, said:

That's quite some bidding by your opponents. Missing AK, A, A, all of which are likely cashing and only an 8-card fit, they've taken the push to 4♥ on those cards ?

My partner made a penalty double, so I'm going to play him for a penalty double.

[wank]

you need to lead a spade at t1 or 2 which has the effect of shortening dummy before partner's club stop can be forced out, resulting in -1 or playing 3 rounds of diamonds when they prove to be 7222 with kx in dummy is also enough i think. so what were all the a of d leaders planning to do later?

admittedly i didn't have much of a double, but there was no MP difference between 4h= and 4hx=, with the normal score being diamond part-score making 10 or 11 (should only make 10), so the double changes your score from about 20 to 95% if you can succeed in getting it off.

i think trying to attribute a meaning like lightner to a double here is too prescriptive when you should be doubling aggressively (very aggressively in my case) to defend your part-score equity, especially when the opps have bid a low hcp, moderate fit game.

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[sathyab]

wank, on 2013-September-10, 06:19, said:

you need to lead a spade at t1 or 2 which has the effect of shortening dummy before partner's club stop can be forced out, resulting in -1 or playing 3 rounds of diamonds when they prove to be 7222 with kx in dummy is also enough i think. so what were all the a of d leaders planning to do later?

admittedly i didn't have much of a double, but there was no MP difference between 4h= and 4hx=, with the normal score being diamond part-score making 10 or 11 (should only make 10), so the double changes your score from about 20 to 95% if you can succeed in getting it off.

i think trying to attribute a meaning like lightner to a double here is too prescriptive when you should be doubling aggressively (very aggressively in my case) to defend your part-score equity, especially when the opps have bid a low hcp, moderate fit game.

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Hands like this are really tough at MP. It's a very aggressive double, but I think it makes sense. The difficult part is for partner to be on the same page as you as to why you doubled and trust that you have a reason for your double. Here he has to trust that you would not double with a stiff ♥. But he may assume that you have ♣KJ for your double, which is not unreasonable and not see the urgency to shut the dummy out. Whether you beat it or not, partner needs to understand that the double was right, as beating it a trick undoubled when everyone else is making +130 was going to be well below average.

[gnasher]

wank, on 2013-September-10, 06:19, said:

what were all the a of d leaders planning to do later?

Play another diamond, expecting partner to ruff it. The difficult part comes at trick four.

[Fluffy]

wank, on 2013-September-10, 06:19, said:

admittedly i didn't have much of a double, but there was no MP difference between 4h= and 4hx=, with the normal score being diamond part-score making 10 or 11 (should only make 10), so the double changes your score from about 20 to 95% if you can succeed in getting it off.

I never noticed that East had raised his own invitation to game.
At least for me this is a flaw on forum hands, or in general, on every hand where auctions is posted but not followed step by step.