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Posted 2013-September-07, 19:37
Was 3♠ too much? What should be done now?
wyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:
Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.
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Posted 2013-September-07, 20:10
4s
prefer 4h transfer over 2h
prefer 4h transfer over 2h
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Posted 2013-September-08, 05:19
Hanoi5, on 2013-September-07, 19:37, said:
Was 3♠
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Posted 2013-September-08, 05:56
This double of 4H for me would be pure penalty and would not have 3 card S support ever, so I am inclined to pass even though I am all offensive.
I would not have faced this problem because this is a pretty clear texas transfer.Perhaps that tool was not available, but we must assume that partner has decent hearts and short spades, what other reason can he have for bidding double?
I would not have faced this problem because this is a pretty clear texas transfer.Perhaps that tool was not available, but we must assume that partner has decent hearts and short spades, what other reason can he have for bidding double?
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Posted 2013-September-08, 05:56
This double of 4H for me would be pure penalty and would not have 3 card S support ever, so I am inclined to pass even though I am all offensive.
I would not have faced this problem because this is a pretty clear texas transfer.Perhaps that tool was not available, but we must assume that partner has decent hearts and short spades, what other reason can he have for bidding double?
I would not have faced this problem because this is a pretty clear texas transfer.Perhaps that tool was not available, but we must assume that partner has decent hearts and short spades, what other reason can he have for bidding double?
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Posted 2013-September-08, 14:08
this double of 4♥ should had never happened unless 3♠ was forcing.
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Posted 2013-September-08, 14:16
Fluffy, on 2013-September-08, 14:08, said:
this double of 4♥ should had never happened unless 3♠ was forcing.
Unless this is a cryptic way of saying partner has them beat in his own hand, I am slightly confused.
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Posted 2013-September-08, 15:40
My goodness! Most of the players in my little BC circle of rubber bridge players would have bid 4♠ the first time. A second chance? Do it now!! Better late than never!
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Posted 2013-September-08, 16:36
nah its a way of saying that 4♥ should be an insufficient bid.
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Posted 2013-September-09, 03:39
Partner has doubled 4♥for penalties and partner,however suspect,must be trusted. If it backfires,you have the satisfaction of
bawling him out for his 'ridiculous' bid. The correct action is to pass and leave the double in. To remove the double is to effectively send the message,"I saw your double partner,but you're a liar and I don't trust you"
bawling him out for his 'ridiculous' bid. The correct action is to pass and leave the double in. To remove the double is to effectively send the message,"I saw your double partner,but you're a liar and I don't trust you"
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Posted 2013-September-09, 04:25
PhilG007, on 2013-September-09, 03:39, said:
Partner has doubled 4♥for penalties and partner,however suspect,must be trusted. If it backfires,you have the satisfaction of
bawling him out for his 'ridiculous' bid. The correct action is to pass and leave the double in. To remove the double is to effectively send the message,"I saw your double partner,but you're a liar and I don't trust you"
bawling him out for his 'ridiculous' bid. The correct action is to pass and leave the double in. To remove the double is to effectively send the message,"I saw your double partner,but you're a liar and I don't trust you"
The reason for taking out to 4♠ is not that we don't trust partner, it is that we have less defence and more offence than he expects.
Do you really obtain satisfaction from "bawling out" your partner?
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-September-09, 04:37
PhilG007, on 2013-September-09, 03:39, said:
Partner has doubled 4♥for penalties and partner,however suspect,must be trusted. If it backfires,you have the satisfaction of
bawling him out for his 'ridiculous' bid. The correct action is to pass and leave the double in. To remove the double is to effectively send the message,"I saw your double partner,but you're a liar and I don't trust you"
bawling him out for his 'ridiculous' bid. The correct action is to pass and leave the double in. To remove the double is to effectively send the message,"I saw your double partner,but you're a liar and I don't trust you"
Partner has cracked it for penalties, hope he didn't think his ♣AKQx were any tricks, you have a potentially very nasty surprise for him.
Would have loved to have leaping Michaels style 4♣ available initially, but I'm very tempted to bid 5♣ now, there are hands where 4♥ is pretty close to making while we make 7♣.
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Posted 2013-September-10, 02:55
PhilG007, on 2013-September-09, 03:39, said:
If it backfires,you partner hasve the satisfaction of bawling himme out for hismy 'ridiculous' bid and pass. The correct action is to pass and leave the double inbid 4♠ directly and avoid this situation completely. To remove the double is to effectively send the message,"I saw your double partner,but you're a liar and I don't trust youI have a lot more offence and a lot less defence than you will expect. Sorry for misleading you but 4♥X rates to be bad for us."
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