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Bidding 6 diamonds and 3 points

#1 User is offline   infiltrado 

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Posted 2013-September-06, 20:02

My pt open 1 club. I have 6 diamonds and 3 points. I pass? Right or wrong?
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Posted 2013-September-06, 21:39

Depends on your agreements. If you're playing weak jump shifts here, you can bid 2 diamonds. If you're not, you should probably pass.
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Posted 2013-September-07, 10:10

As blackie says, it depends, at least somewhat, on agreements. I am not generally a fan of weak jump shifts but here I would be delighted to be playing them and I would then bid 2♦ pretty much independently of where my three points are. The main upside that I see for wjs is exactly this ability to get out of a spot that is likely to be hopeless with some safety and clarity.

If not playing wjs, I dunno. If the diamonds are KTxxxx then I think I bid 1♦. If my three points are something like the Q of spades and the J of hearts, I think I pass and hope for the best. So far, no one has doubled. And if we escape from playing in 1♣, any subsequent action by me should be unambiguous. And, on occasions, partner has club length.

I think modern practice is to bid very very readily over 1♣ on really minimal values. I have seen this work, I have seen this not work.Often people who do this have a device, such as the Wolff sign-off, to get out at the three level if opener rebids 2NT. That would help.
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Posted 2013-September-08, 00:13

It depends on my methods. If I have a way to get out in 2D after 1C 1D 1NT then 1D is fine. Although 765432 of D is not so good.
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Posted 2013-September-08, 11:22

Pass. 6 card major? More complex.
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Posted 2013-September-08, 14:17

If partner is weak, as the opponents are likely to be bidding or doubling, I think pass is best, hoping that you can bid 2♦ next time round.

If partner has a strong hand and you have no agreements on the meaning of 1♣ 1♦ 2NT 3♦, then that would be better if partner understands it as a weak takeout, but you would be badly placed if he bids the equally likely 3♣ or 2♥.
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