[benlessard]

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The double of 3C show 0 or 1 control (That all I know abotu the method sorry)

3H instead of 4H would have been NF.

[CamHenry]

I stand no chance of improving the contract, and if it has no play then partner's hand evaluation is more likely a problem than mine. I have described my hand as best I can (according to the methods provided), and doing anything other than passing would be an overbid. Even an SOS redouble could make things worse: if partner's 2-7-1-3, for example, 4♥ may be our least bad spot.

[Free]

I'd trust my partner and pass.

[billw55]

No reason to think 4♥x is not the normal contract, bid at the other table(s). No need to panic and make it worse.

[manudude03]

I hate the conditions here (what is partner supposed to bid with a 3541 hand?), but I'm definitely passing, for me, if a SOS XX was even available, I'd have to be 6-5.

[gszes]

p had a non forcing 3h bid available also they could have bid 4c if they were
2 suited oriented. they chose 4h for a reason and we have less than no clue
what those reasons are. pass quietly and see what happens. You either
trust your p or find another because you will not enjoy the game if you do not
trust your partner (same goes for your partner if you "decide" to pull them
from a making 4hx).

[mikeh]

I'm with manudude: I hate the method: to me, 3♥ has to be forcing but that's because, I suppose, I play 2♥ immediate negative and that structure virtually requires that 2♣ 2♥ 3♥ be forcing, else big 2-suiters are unbiddable.

I can't imagine pulling.

If partner is, for example, 4=6=3=0 and felt endplayed because he had too good a hand to risk me passing below game, maybe we can have a useful discussion about improving our methods.

[benlessard]

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This was the bidding at our table obviously 3H was meant as forcing but was passed. No need to tell you that -2 undoubled was not enough. I was wondering If WEST double 4H if they have a chance to run out in 4S.

Assuming 3H (forcing)-3S It will be also real tough to stop in 4S.

[ggwhiz]

I double 4♠ and lead a trump.

[mikeh]

benlessard, on 2013-August-13, 19:31, said:

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This was the bidding at our table obviously 3H was meant as forcing but was passed. No need to tell you that -2 undoubled was not enough. I was wondering If WEST double 4H if they have a chance to run out in 4S.

Assuming 3H (forcing)-3S It will be also real tough to stop in 4S.

How is it possible to go beyond 4♠?

Opener knows we're off the spade A. We are getting tapped in the KJx hand at trick 1. Even assuming partner holds the spade Q (the highest spade he can hold), all the opps need do is to duck 1 round of trump and then cash a club, on most lies. Opener would need to switch off his brain to bid more than 4♠

[benlessard]

I also agree the method is pretty bad but its doesnt change a lot of things the bidding is likely to go (3C)-P-3H-3S-4H anyway. Some might even bid 4H directly because they may feel they have more than 9 sure tricks and wanted to show extras.

I think bidding 4H and not 4S is pretty clear.

Qxxxx or Txxxx
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Do you really prefer to be in 4s ?

but in the end its with 3H--3S--4H route you will probably avoid 4Hx so you can score it as a success.