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Posted 2013-August-05, 14:44

Played the swiss weekend in Newport over the weekend, didn't play very well in the pairs, but finished second equal in the teams 2 VPs off winning, as you'd expect, lots of chances to do better at both tables:

Hand 1:



Is pass here forcing ? We defended 5-2 to pick up 100 when I decided it wasn't with



Hand 2:

This was the typical hand where both pairs have a bad result in the set on different boards but good results on the same board I have no idea how this should be bid.



This was the bidding at our table and we quickly took 3 diamond tricks for +500, at the other table in a multi auction, W bid the spades and played 5x, the diamond lead wasn't found and this made all 13 for 18 IMPs to the good guys

Hand 3: Vul vs not in second seat, what do you expect from partner's 3 bid on this sequence ?

1N(12-14)-P(you)-2(stayman)-3

What do you do if anything opposite it with 9xxx, Qxx, A9, AKJx ?

Hand 4:

Team mates got 2 slam boards wrong, this was difficult I think. Their system is precision 15-17 1N, 1 1+ less than 16 points



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Posted 2013-August-05, 15:08

too many boards for 1 thread.

Hand 1 its a non forcing pass auction for most experts, but yo might have the agreement of vul vs not game which would make it forcing. But in general it should not be forcing, south is weak, and north can be just shapy.


Hand 3 depends on the methods, I think Frances plays power doubles of 2 to avoid being stolen, I think it makes a lot of sense, barring that I would play direct action weak, and await reopening with strong hands, my methods against weak NT are very bad.

Hand 4 I would double every day of the week.
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Posted 2013-August-06, 03:29

Agree, too many boards...

hand 1: is not a forcing pass situation. None of the players showed that you have the values to actually make game, although it's quite close.
hand 2: I prefer leaping michaels on this hand. The extra compensates for the poor quality, still close to a 4 loser hand when opps have the master suit. The auction at the other table is unknown, so we can't discuss this properly, but I find it strange that South didn't get to mention his s and North lead a .
hand 3: I expect a nice suit and preemptive values, a clear pass imo.
hand 4: Dbl wtp
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Posted 2013-August-06, 03:41

Can I ask why double is better than 3S on the last one? Not saying you're wrong - especially since two people advocated doubling - but I would call the simple 3S.

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Posted 2013-August-06, 03:43

View PostFree, on 2013-August-06, 03:29, said:

Agree, too many boards...

hand 1: is not a forcing pass situation. None of the players showed that you have the values to actually make game, although it's quite close.
hand 2: I prefer leaping michaels on this hand. The extra compensates for the poor quality, still close to a 4 loser hand when opps have the master suit. The auction at the other table is unknown, so we can't discuss this properly, but I find it strange that South didn't get to mention his s and North lead a .
hand 3: I expect a nice suit and preemptive values, a clear pass imo.
hand 4: Dbl wtp

I more or less agree with your assessments on 1,2,4 although we play our leaping Michaels 4 forcing and better than this. I think they may have made a /minor bid at the other table over the multi and the auction got to 5 before the minor got specified.

On 3, vul v not, I wasn't sure if this was KQJxxxx and a card, so bid 3N, partner failed to pull it with x, Kx, QJ109xxxx, 10x, the end result wasn't pretty when they led a heart. 5 is actually a pretty decent contract with the 1N bid meaning Kx won't be offside, but in fact trumps are 3-0 so 4 is the limit.
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Posted 2013-August-06, 04:13

View Postahydra, on 2013-August-06, 03:41, said:

Can I ask why double is better than 3S on the last one? Not saying you're wrong - especially since two people advocated doubling - but I would call the simple 3S.

I would expect 3 not to be forcing, and I don't think I will be very happy playing there if partner passes.
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Posted 2013-August-06, 04:24

View Postahydra, on 2013-August-06, 03:41, said:

Can I ask why double is better than 3S on the last one? Not saying you're wrong - especially since two people advocated doubling - but I would call the simple 3S.

You can't defend 3 if you bid 3 (aside from it not being forcing).
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Posted 2013-August-06, 05:13

erm, whoops, clearly not with it today. 3S is indeed NF leaving a 4S punt or a more sensible X as the only options. Just ignore me :)

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Posted 2013-August-06, 05:20

View Postahydra, on 2013-August-06, 05:13, said:

erm, whoops, clearly not with it today. 3S is indeed NF leaving a 4S punt or a more sensible X as the only options. Just ignore me :)

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4 was the bid actually chosen, leading his partner to take a flight of fancy and bid a poor 6 which would have been fine opposite a doubleton diamond, but needed Qx with 6 missing as it was.

His hand:

KJx
J5xx
AKxx
Qx

Are you passing the double ? it's the winning action as overcaller with AKQ10987 can only make his 6 heart tricks so even the 2 that I bid would have been too expensive.
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Posted 2013-August-06, 06:18

all you need is Q with south since he is squeezed in the reds (ruff out north's cards in case he has a honor). I wouldn't had bid on with opener's hand but I admire his brave.

I wouldn't pass 3X, 0.7 trump tricks is not enough with so good hand for spades.
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Posted 2013-August-06, 08:51

View PostFluffy, on 2013-August-06, 06:18, said:

all you need is Q with south since he is squeezed in the reds (ruff out north's cards in case he has a honor). I wouldn't had bid on with opener's hand but I admire his brave.

I wouldn't pass 3X, 0.7 trump tricks is not enough with so good hand for spades.


Qxxx with N meant no chance however you did it.

Once N showed out on the second heart, I think AKQ10987 and a Q is fairly unlikely for a WJO even at this vul.

I thought it was a difficult pass to find for +800, but a normal 4+1 would have won us the event.
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Posted 2013-August-06, 09:18

View Postahydra, on 2013-August-06, 03:41, said:

Can I ask why double is better than 3S on the last one? Not saying you're wrong - especially since two people advocated doubling - but I would call the simple 3S.

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Dbl is more flexible: you bring in both minors as an alternative strain.
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