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加倍出套逼叫吗

#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2013-June-05, 00:43




2是逼叫吗?后续你如何抉择?
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Posted 2013-June-05, 03:11

同伴显示了加倍出套的牌力,我是北的话,我叫一声3,由同伴决定是否进局。
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Posted 2013-June-05, 03:17

我认为2逼叫,2后我会叫3或3,我更倾向于叫3
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Posted 2013-June-05, 03:20

加倍出套总是逼叫。
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Posted 2013-June-05, 04:14

这个肯定是逼叫的,本来可以便宜叫出1S而在加倍后于2阶叫出。我会选择3S,因为C套感觉弱了些,而且无法叫NT,SQX也算不错的支持。
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Posted 2013-June-05, 04:19

嗯,加倍出套的牌力没有上限,所以,是逼叫的。
正确的判断来自经验,而经验常常来自错误的判断。

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Posted 2013-June-05, 04:36

我赞同一般性的加倍出套不逼叫,但在有限支持的情形下同伴应尽可能的维持叫牌,此牌中的SQ和CA所提供的帮助是显而易见的,所以在此支持以双张带1大加叫至3S。
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Posted 2013-June-05, 22:39

看具体情况,如果真是很差的点,又不配合是可以PASS的,但6点有两支持可以邀一下。
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Posted 2013-June-06, 00:09

这要看加倍出套的定义,若是16HCP+,像牌面显示的,我认为是建设性的,PD拿差牌可以PASS。实际持牌有非常好的6P,加叫3S是本手。
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Posted 2013-June-06, 01:12

我认为不逼叫,搭档白板时难道也要硬着头皮往里钻吗,如果独立成局的牌在加倍之后何苦叫出了2S为难搭档,难道想贯不成? :P
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Posted 2013-June-06, 05:20

逼叫的。^_^
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Posted 2013-June-06, 07:48

不逼叫,但有6点之多时是绝不可能PASS的。
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Posted 2013-June-06, 23:36

加倍出套是否逼叫?我的回答是逼叫。加倍出套的人是没有上线的,一般二盖一的加倍出套是18+,那么你若有6+,就该正常应叫,你若6-,就应该有示弱装置。
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Posted 2013-June-09, 13:23

加倍后出套逼叫的
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Posted 2013-July-10, 00:47

请楼主给出正确答案,谢谢
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Posted 2013-July-10, 02:39

 601821297, on 2013-July-10, 00:47, said:

请楼主给出正确答案,谢谢

此处我不多谈过去传统方式,我的方案是:
1-加倍后再出套=逼叫
2-加倍后再跳叫=逼局
3-加倍后再扣叫=支持同伴花色或寻求无将定约

希望这是我们俱乐部队员的叫牌卡。大家同意吗?
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Posted 2013-July-10, 02:56

這個不是簡單加倍迫叫,在對方答叫後的加倍後再叫的牌是不迫叫的。只是高限競叫黑桃套。如加倍後,再扣叫才是絕對的迫叫,包括在加倍後左敵再叫的扣叫。

例子:

1D - X - 2D - P
P - 3D!

這時3D 肯定是迫叫,任何非扣叫的叫品都是不迫叫。
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Posted 2013-July-10, 05:54

加倍出套后=不逼叫,因为pd完全可以是很烂且配合不怎么好的牌,抬一阶没那么好
就这副牌而言,N家该3
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Posted 2013-July-10, 09:52

 sungh, on 2013-June-05, 04:19, said:

嗯,加倍出套的牌力没有上限,所以,是逼叫的。

加倍出套当然有上限,绝对不超过2开叫的牌力。所以不逼叫(就像2C以外的开叫不逼叫一样)。
加倍之后扣叫才逼叫(到局)。
加倍之后跳叫是否逼叫,看同伴间的约定。比如:(1)-X-(p)-1-(p)-2,同伴如果白板,配合不好(牌型差),同伴可以pass吗?

就这副牌而言,北有非常好的6点(唯一的不足是只有2张),Qx支持同伴,旁门有A,直接加到局都不为过。
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Posted 2013-July-11, 01:06

劳伦斯说不仅加倍出套不逼叫,甚至加倍再跳叫也是不逼叫的。 B-)
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