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#1 User is offline   lesh 

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Posted 2013-May-26, 16:40


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Posted 2013-May-26, 16:52

3NT
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Posted 2013-May-26, 17:43

View PostMrAce, on 2013-May-26, 16:52, said:

3NT

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( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall

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Posted 2013-May-26, 19:02

How will double avoid 3-4 M-fit in 4M?
3Nt at least warns partner to have a good Major for 4M.
And it's a reasonable spot to play.
Hope partner has something near a useful 10.
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Posted 2013-May-26, 21:49

Pass and not even close. From where are my tricks going to come in 3NT?
"The King of Hearts a broadsword bears, the Queen of Hearts a rose." W. H. Auden.
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Posted 2013-May-27, 02:06

View Postthe hog, on 2013-May-26, 21:49, said:

Pass and not even close. From where are my tricks going to come in 3NT?

From my and partner's cards I guess.
When I open a strong notrump and partner raises to 3NT I rarely know where my tricks will be coming from before I inspect the dummy.

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Posted 2013-May-27, 02:08

3NT for me
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Posted 2013-May-27, 06:09

Obvious 3N
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Posted 2013-May-27, 10:52

View Postthe hog, on 2013-May-26, 21:49, said:

Pass and not even close. From where are my tricks going to come in 3NT?


Our ability to "sever" opps club commumications by ducking the first round
of clubs in conjunction with being able to play the hand double dummy
should give us a reasonable chance of making 3n. Rho didnt try for game
which increases the expected power from p somewhat. If we have no play
for 3n there is a very good chance that 3c will make so any loss we take from
going down will have minimal impact. The risk vs reward of IMPS seems
reasonable. At MP a pass is just as reasonable a way to try for a top as
bidding 3N though I admit the 3N flag is waving in front of me and I will
probably charge anyway.

IMO 3N =10 pass = 8 dbl = 6 nothing is perfect preempts work keep doing them.
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Posted 2013-May-27, 12:15

3 Nt
Kind Regards

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Posted 2013-May-27, 17:47

View Postrhm, on 2013-May-27, 02:06, said:

From my and partner's cards I guess.
When I open a strong notrump and partner raises to 3NT I rarely know where my tricks will be coming from before I inspect the dummy.

Rainer Herrmann


From YOUR cards? Pray tell, which long suit are you going to develop?
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Posted 2013-May-27, 17:56

3NT of course, when I saw this 'problem' in the expert forum I assumed it was an rduran post!
That's impossible. No one can give more than one hundred percent. By definition that is the most anyone can give.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 00:21

View Post655321, on 2013-May-27, 17:56, said:

3NT of course, when I saw this 'problem' in the expert forum I assumed it was an rduran post!


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Posted 2013-May-28, 01:51

I think the choice is between 3NT and pass, and it is very close. At these colors, I would pass.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 05:14

let me join my voice to the chorus of 3N bids. The passers will occasionally prove to have made the winning call on the actual hand, whatever it turns out to have been, but the 3N bidders are going to be the long term winners, IMO.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 05:34

To pass strikes me as whimpy and 3NT could easily work out. Perhaps partner has a couple of aces, even some 5 or 6 card suit I should be able to set up. You pass these ones and I find you are usually on the short rnd of the stick.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 06:01

Passing is a pretty wild gamble (though still superior to double).
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Posted 2013-May-28, 10:22

View PostPhilKing, on 2013-May-28, 06:01, said:

Passing is a pretty wild gamble (though still superior to double).


We don't know if our teammates opened 3♣.
For all we know our LHO made this a gambling
board. 3NT, double, and pass are all high
variance actions. 4333 patterns are not
conducive to generating tricks. ♣KQx may
produce only one trick. Partner rates to hold
only 8 points. Partner may need 11 points to
make 3NT clearly over 40%. Pass is not that
unreasonable.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 11:03

3N. I don't think any other call is worth considering.
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Posted 2013-May-28, 11:29

I don't have the courage to pass so I bid 3NT
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