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Posted 2013-June-05, 18:44



You are West, sitting behind dummy=South.

Partner leads the spade T to declarer's Q. Declarer plays three rounds of diamonds, turning up with AQ9 and partner following. What do you pitch on the 4th round of diamonds?
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Posted 2013-June-05, 21:13

If partner has a jack in the right place and is able to get in with it to lead another spade through.... I'll go with the Q.
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Posted 2013-June-05, 23:41

I assume it's IMPs.

I agree with throwing Q, but I don't think it should work.

Suppose that declarer has Qxx AKxx AQx Qxx. I throw Q, but declarer throws a heart, plays a club to the queen, cashes AK, and plays a black suit to endplay me.

I could play declarer for Qxx AKxxx AQx Qx, by throwing Q and then playing A when he leads one. But if he has this hand he's misplayed it - he could have used dummy's two diamond entries to lead hearts through me twice. In fact, that would be true even if he didn't have Q.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-June-06, 01:39

judging by the title declarer can always make but we have to make the hardest play for him.

If I pitch a heart declarer has a claim via club and AK of hearts and endplay me. I need to pitch a spade, and hope he plays me for 5332. He will play a club and AK of hearts loses to that shape (I will unblock hearts), so he will have to guess.
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Posted 2013-June-06, 12:10

View PostJLOGIC, on 2013-June-06, 01:39, said:

judging by the title declarer can always make but we have to make the hardest play for him.

If I pitch a heart declarer has a claim via club and AK of hearts and endplay me. I need to pitch a spade, and hope he plays me for 5332. He will play a club and AK of hearts loses to that shape (I will unblock hearts), so he will have to guess.

Wd, you just won 12 IMPs against Levin and Willenken, and saved yourself from losing 12 IMPs to Dwyer and Cheek.

Martel against Cheek/Moss against Willenken

Meckstroth cashed A before cashing the diamonds, possibly a stronger play:
Meck vs Dwyer/Kranyak vs Levin
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Posted 2013-June-06, 12:26

View Postcherdano, on 2013-June-06, 12:10, said:

Wd, you just won 12 IMPs against Levin and Willenken, and saved yourself from losing 12 IMPs to Dwyer and Cheek.

Zia against Cheek/Moss against Willenken

Meckstroth cashed A before cashing the diamonds, possibly a stronger play:
Meck vs Dwyer/Kranyak vs Levin


Hand record says Martel was playing it rather than Zia.

At the Moss table, I must be being thick, because it looks like two down at trick 8. Oh lol, just spotted the spade discard by East.
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