BBO Discussion Forums: Excellent hand from which to lead - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Excellent hand from which to lead

Poll: Excellent hand from which to lead (10 member(s) have cast votes)

Lead?

  1. Low spade (9 votes [90.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 90.00%

  2. Queen of hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  3. 9 of hearts (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Ace of diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Queen of diamonds (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. King of clubs (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. Jack of clubs (1 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

Vote Guests cannot vote

#1 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

  • Slightly less bad player
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 964
  • Joined: 2012-October-16
  • Gender:Female
  • Interests:Bridge

Posted 2013-May-13, 18:08


2NT bid shows a stop, 20-21.
Matchpoints.
bonus: would you bid 3♠ over 2NT?
Become yourself.
0

#2 User is offline   PhilKing 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,240
  • Joined: 2012-June-25

Posted 2013-May-13, 19:34

I must be going blind! I have the option of leading the ♣J, but not the ♠Q? :( :angry: :ph34r:
1

#3 User is offline   mikl_plkcc 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 321
  • Joined: 2008-November-20
  • Gender:Male
  • Interests:sailing, bridge

Posted 2013-May-13, 22:15

Standard: lead the fourth from the longest and strongest suit. (Consume all the stoppers in North)
0

#4 User is offline   rmnka447 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 2,366
  • Joined: 2012-March-18
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Illinois
  • Interests:Bridge, Golf, Soccer

Posted 2013-May-13, 22:56

The auction sounds to me like somebody has 5 ♥. If 3 ♦ is natural, that would be North (the 2 NT bidder). If it's a transfer, it'll be South (the dummy) .

Partner can't have much. If we're going to beat 3 NT, it has to be by setting up my suit.

If pard holds a high ♠ honor, South has pushed on to 3 NT with 1-3 points which is illogical.

But, it is just possible that partner might have a jack or two.

If partner holds any number of ♠ to the J, leading a ♠ won't lose anything. If declarer holds something like ♠ AKJ in hand or Jx in dummy opposite AKx, then leading ♠s may give up a trick.

So I sort of like leading ♠ Q. Over here the lead of a Q against NT typically asks partner to unblock the J if it is held. Additionally, leading the Q caters to finding a stiff J in dummy or pard's hand which prevents the loss of a tempo in attacking spades.
0

#5 User is offline   Codo 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,373
  • Joined: 2003-March-15
  • Location:Hamburg, Germany
  • Interests:games and sports, esp. bridge,chess and (beach-)volleyball

Posted 2013-May-14, 05:07

Noone of my closer choices are avaiable, I would lead the queen of spades, second choice the ten... Really a funny problem, where I can lead anything but the two most obvious leads. :)
Kind Regards

Roland

Sanity Check: Failure (Fluffy)
More system is not the answer...
0

#6 User is offline   PhilKing 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 3,240
  • Joined: 2012-June-25

Posted 2013-May-14, 05:47

SPADE QUEEN!
2

#7 User is offline   nige1 

  • 5-level belongs to me
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,128
  • Joined: 2004-August-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Glasgow Scotland
  • Interests:Poems Computers

Posted 2013-May-14, 12:23

View PostLord Molyb, on 2013-May-13, 18:08, said:

2NT bid shows a stop, 20-21. Matchpoints. bonus: would you bid 3♠ over 2NT?
IMO
  • Over 2N, 3♠ = 10, Pass = 9.
  • Lead ♠Q = 10, ♠ other = 9, ♥Q = 5, Others = 3. I quite like Picky's lead of ♠Q although I don't know if I would think of it at the table.

Guthrie.tech
0

#8 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

  • Slightly less bad player
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 964
  • Joined: 2012-October-16
  • Gender:Female
  • Interests:Bridge

Posted 2013-May-14, 13:25

View Postrmnka447, on 2013-May-13, 22:56, said:

The auction sounds to me like somebody has 5 ♥. If 3 ♦ is natural, that would be North (the 2 NT bidder). If it's a transfer, it'll be South (the dummy) .

Sorry I didn't specify, it's a transfer.
Become yourself.
0

#9 User is offline   jeffford76 

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 642
  • Joined: 2007-October-30
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Redmond, WA

Posted 2013-May-14, 14:19

One of the other threads mentioned learning things from BridgeWinners. They have lead polls where you can lead any of your cards, instead of just the ones the poller thought of, a clear improvement.

(I also wanted to lead SQ.)
0

#10 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

  • Slightly less bad player
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 964
  • Joined: 2012-October-16
  • Gender:Female
  • Interests:Bridge

Posted 2013-May-14, 15:08

yes, I have learned my lesson :wacko:
next time I will put up options for all 13 cards :lol:
Become yourself.
0

#11 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

  • Slightly less bad player
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 964
  • Joined: 2012-October-16
  • Gender:Female
  • Interests:Bridge

Posted 2013-May-14, 19:37

This was the full hand. 3NT made, but only the diamond lead holds it to 9 tricks. :o

Become yourself.
0

#12 User is offline   Cyberyeti 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 13,947
  • Joined: 2009-July-13
  • Location:England

Posted 2013-May-14, 23:05

View PostLord Molyb, on 2013-May-14, 19:37, said:

This was the full hand. 3NT made, but only the diamond lead holds it to 9 tricks. :o

Err, don't understand this comment.
0

#13 User is offline   bigbenvic 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 317
  • Joined: 2011-October-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Melbourne, Australia

Posted 2013-May-15, 00:50

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-May-14, 23:05, said:

Err, don't understand this comment.


Neither do I. I think on any lead it makes on repeated endplays.

You need 3s 2h 2d & 2c and can afford to give up tricks. A♦ gives declarer no problems as I see it the danger is he tries a low diamond towards the KJ.
0

#14 User is offline   MrAce 

  • VIP Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 6,971
  • Joined: 2009-November-14
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Houston, TX

Posted 2013-May-15, 02:20

I would have led ♠Q in a splint second, and let them make their 3NT.
"Genius has its own limitations, however stupidity has no such boundaries!"
"It's only when a mosquito lands on your testicles that you realize there is always a way to solve problems without using violence!"

"Well to be perfectly honest, in my humble opinion, of course without offending anyone who thinks differently from my point of view, but also by looking into this matter in a different perspective and without being condemning of one's view's and by trying to make it objectified, and by considering each and every one's valid opinion, I honestly believe that I completely forgot what I was going to say."
0

#15 User is offline   Fluffy 

  • World International Master without a clue
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,404
  • Joined: 2003-November-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:madrid

Posted 2013-May-15, 03:58

View PostCyberyeti, on 2013-May-14, 23:05, said:

Err, don't understand this comment.


click on the gib button and you will see
BridgeGod: my personal website with interactive problems and articles
0

#16 User is offline   gnasher 

  • Andy Bowles
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 11,993
  • Joined: 2007-May-03
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, UK

Posted 2013-May-15, 05:02

That's quite a good demonstration of how to misuse double-dummy analysis.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
0

#17 User is offline   bigbenvic 

  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 317
  • Joined: 2011-October-23
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Melbourne, Australia

Posted 2013-May-15, 19:27

View PostFluffy, on 2013-May-15, 03:58, said:

click on the gib button and you will see


Doesn't work in my browser :-(
0

#18 User is offline   Fluffy 

  • World International Master without a clue
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 17,404
  • Joined: 2003-November-13
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:madrid

Posted 2013-May-16, 00:26

perhaps that's good news for you, on this hand at least :P
BridgeGod: my personal website with interactive problems and articles
0

#19 User is offline   Lord Molyb 

  • Slightly less bad player
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Full Members
  • Posts: 964
  • Joined: 2012-October-16
  • Gender:Female
  • Interests:Bridge

Posted 2013-May-16, 14:37

View PostFluffy, on 2013-May-16, 00:26, said:

perhaps that's good news for you, on this hand at least :P

yup yup yup, wish I could delete topics or ban myself from this forum during late hours... :unsure:
Become yourself.
0
Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users