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you open 1S, partner replies 1NT, what would you rebid (possibly wrong forum)?
Your partner has
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KQxxx
Kxxx, what should he rebid? If you end up in spades you will be declarer and LHO will lead the ♣Q. How would you play?
I hope at least one of the three questions is interesting.
Matchpoints. All of the x's are very, very small and opps have no idea what signalling is.
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Overthinking again
#2
Posted 2013-March-21, 05:06
Aunt Kathy and her sister would probably bid it 1♠ - 1NT; 3♠ - 3NT.
(-: Zel :-)
#3
Posted 2013-March-21, 06:37
3♠ rebid is about as obvious as they come. If all decisions were this easy, I could win Bermuda Bowl on a good day.
Playing 4♠ after ♣Q, there is nothing to lose by trying to pitch a heart on the third diamond. Only question is whether to lay down ♠AK first.
Playing 4♠ after ♣Q, there is nothing to lose by trying to pitch a heart on the third diamond. Only question is whether to lay down ♠AK first.
Life is long and beautiful, if bad things happen, good things will follow.
-gwnn
-gwnn
#4
Posted 2013-March-21, 14:31
Rebid 3 ♠. Your hand has 16 HCP, a reasonably good 6 card ♠ suit, and really no other suit to show. A jump rebid shows exactly that hand. Partner will know to pass with the 5 to bad 8 hand and bid on with a better hand.
Partner has a decision to make -- pass 3 ♠, bid 4 ♠, or bid 3 NT. Partner's problem is that there in no way to obtain more information about your hand. Holding a good 8, I think the choice for partner is between 3 NT or 4 ♠. With bad ♥ spots, I think 4 ♠ is better.
The opponents have helped you by leading ♣ Q. They didn't find a lead and cash 3 ♥ tricks.
Win in your hand with ♣ A.
Cash ♠ A. If neither ♠ Q or ♠ 10 show, cash ♠ K. If spades are 3-2 and the Q is doubleton, you can draw the last trump and pitch a losing ♥ on the ♦ Q making at least 5. If spades are 3-2 and the Q has not fallen, you still make 4 so long as the hand holding the ♠ Q also has a doubleton ♦. You next cash 3 rounds of ♦ and pitch a ♥ loser on the third ♦ winner. If the hand with the ♠ Q has exactly three diamonds, diamonds will break and you have a chance to make 5 by playing a 4th ♦ trick and pitching a 2nd ♥ loser.
If the ♠ Q falls when you cash the ♠ A, you can cash two more ♠s [K,J] and hope the player with the ♠ 10 fourth has at least 2 ♦, continue playing as above.
If ♠ are 4-1 and the ♠ 10 falls when you cash the ♠ A or spades are 4-1 and all low cards show when you cash the ♠ K, you may still have some possibilities via a trump coup.
Had the opponents cashed 3 ♥ tricks against 4 ♠, you would have been down to bringing in the ♠ suit without the loss of a trick at best. A 4th ♥ led from in front of your hand might well effect a trump promotion. In that case, your best hope would be to ruff with the ♠ 9 and hope ♠ Q10x were in front of your hand. Without a 4th ♥ return, your best hope is to cross to dummy and finesse the ♠ J hoping for 3-3 ♠s with the Q onside.
Partner has a decision to make -- pass 3 ♠, bid 4 ♠, or bid 3 NT. Partner's problem is that there in no way to obtain more information about your hand. Holding a good 8, I think the choice for partner is between 3 NT or 4 ♠. With bad ♥ spots, I think 4 ♠ is better.
The opponents have helped you by leading ♣ Q. They didn't find a lead and cash 3 ♥ tricks.
Win in your hand with ♣ A.
Cash ♠ A. If neither ♠ Q or ♠ 10 show, cash ♠ K. If spades are 3-2 and the Q is doubleton, you can draw the last trump and pitch a losing ♥ on the ♦ Q making at least 5. If spades are 3-2 and the Q has not fallen, you still make 4 so long as the hand holding the ♠ Q also has a doubleton ♦. You next cash 3 rounds of ♦ and pitch a ♥ loser on the third ♦ winner. If the hand with the ♠ Q has exactly three diamonds, diamonds will break and you have a chance to make 5 by playing a 4th ♦ trick and pitching a 2nd ♥ loser.
If the ♠ Q falls when you cash the ♠ A, you can cash two more ♠s [K,J] and hope the player with the ♠ 10 fourth has at least 2 ♦, continue playing as above.
If ♠ are 4-1 and the ♠ 10 falls when you cash the ♠ A or spades are 4-1 and all low cards show when you cash the ♠ K, you may still have some possibilities via a trump coup.
Had the opponents cashed 3 ♥ tricks against 4 ♠, you would have been down to bringing in the ♠ suit without the loss of a trick at best. A 4th ♥ led from in front of your hand might well effect a trump promotion. In that case, your best hope would be to ruff with the ♠ 9 and hope ♠ Q10x were in front of your hand. Without a 4th ♥ return, your best hope is to cross to dummy and finesse the ♠ J hoping for 3-3 ♠s with the Q onside.
#5
Posted 2013-March-21, 14:37
I would rebid 3♠, but I don't have the same glowing optimism of the other posters. I just can't justify bidding less. The hand has 6 losers by MLTC, which is less than is required for a strong rebid, but one of those losers is the ♠Q which may not be a loser opposite a moderate fit.
Depending on partner's hand, the 3♠ rebid will either work very well or very poorly. If we have a fit, it should work well. But we may have 3 quick losers and a lot of work to do in a spade contract.
My 3♠ call is going to give partner a major headache on the hand he holds. I hope that he guesses well. And, looking at both hands, I can't tell you whether I want to be in 3♠, 4♠ or 3NT (or, for that matter, 2♠)
Depending on partner's hand, the 3♠ rebid will either work very well or very poorly. If we have a fit, it should work well. But we may have 3 quick losers and a lot of work to do in a spade contract.
My 3♠ call is going to give partner a major headache on the hand he holds. I hope that he guesses well. And, looking at both hands, I can't tell you whether I want to be in 3♠, 4♠ or 3NT (or, for that matter, 2♠)
#6
Posted 2013-March-21, 14:56
rmnka, trumps were not 3-2 or 4-1, I'm confused (you do talk about 3-3 in your last paragraph).
... and I can prove it with my usual, flawless logic.
George Carlin
George Carlin
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