[jillybean]

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Plenty to discuss on this hand.

My 10 point opening. We are in a FP situation, should I leave it?

[mike777]

I open lite but prefer pass with that north hand. ten hcp 3 suited hands tend not to play so well.


Really dislike 4h here, too weak. But not sure what the best method to compete with the south hand is...just not 4h.

[hrothgar]

jillybean, on 2013-February-23, 20:41, said:

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Plenty to discuss on this hand.

My 10 point opening. We are in a FP situation, should I leave it?

The big issue is that there is a double fit on the hand, and you were never able to diagnosis it.
South never showed diamond support

[awm]

I don't think I would open the north hand in first seat, and I would pass over 4♠ -- if partner has a singleton spade we probably want to compete rather than defend for example. However, I don't think the contract is so much a problem as the defense. The jack of spades play on the second round of trump at the table was poorly judged -- if west has six spades there is no real hurry to tap him again, whereas if he has five (as here) rising is extremely expensive.

[jillybean]

Ah yes, I forgot to add the fact that I popped up with the J♠. I thought there was more to discuss.
Playing too fast, not thinking enough.

[kfay]

If South wanted to set up a FP she should have bid 3♠. --> not in a forcing pass.

[JLOGIC]

Definitely not in a forcing pass, you have no idea whos hand it is. That said, the biggest problem is letting them make.

[Codo]

I had opened your hand, but it is surely not madatory.

I had bid 4 ♥ with the south hand.


If this bidding sequence creates a FP situation for you this is fine. It is not necessary to have always the best agreements, but it is necessary to have agreements.

I had doubled 4 Spade with your hand, not knowing about the double fit, my hand does not look like 5 Diamond/HEart at all. Yes this works poorly here, but such is life. Partner made a reasonable descission to conceal the double fit, now it backfires- could happen.

There is NO excuse to let them make. You are not allow to play too fast against JEC and never ever with a game or even slam bonus at stake.

Of course this is easier to say then to do...

[jillybean]

kfay, on 2013-February-23, 22:31, said:

If South wanted to set up a FP she should have bid 3♠. --> not in a forcing pass.

JLOGIC, on 2013-February-24, 00:38, said:

Definitely not in a forcing pass, you have no idea whos hand it is. That said, the biggest problem is letting them make.

You're right of course, this is not a FP.