[CSGibson]

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You have not discussed this sequence specifically, but partner is a good player.

Should you raise? And how high? NV, teams, last round of a sectional where you are in 1st, playing the 2nd place team.

[Lord Molyb]

I will make them guess. 3♥.

[the_clown]

I would raise to 3. Partner is a passed hand after all.

[rmnka447]

I'm raising to 3 ♥ also.

Opener should have 6+ ♣. Responder has denied a major. So 3 ♣ appears odds on to make.

Unless pard has made a funny bid, you're side has 9+ ♥. You might pass if you had only 3 ♥ and 5-6 value.
But here you have a decent 4 card raise. So fight for the partscore!

If you're off 1 or off 1 Dbled in 3 ♥, then you're no worse off letting 3 ♣ make. But the bonus comes when you push them to 4 and beat them 1 or if your side makes 3 ♥. Then you'll record one of those nice part score swings for 5-7 IMPs.

[Alik1974]

rmnka447, on 2013-February-18, 21:06, said:

I'm raising to 3 ♥ also.

Opener should have 6+ ♣. Responder has denied a major. So 3 ♣ appears odds on to make.

Unless pard has made a funny bid, you're side has 9+ ♥. You might pass if you had only 3 ♥ and 5-6 value.
But here you have a decent 4 card raise. So fight for the partscore!

If you're off 1 or off 1 Dbled in 3 ♥, then you're no worse off letting 3 ♣ make. But the bonus comes when you push them to 4 and beat them 1 or if your side makes 3 ♥. Then you'll record one of those nice part score swings for 5-7 IMPs.

I agree. You saved me from typing

[Fluffy]

No, I don't think partner must be 4-6 in the majors for this bid, 3♥ is enough for me.

[JLOGIC]

Anything but 3H seems to be overthinking it. I have a good heart fit and no game interest.

[Phil]

4♥ is too much. 3♥ doesn't get in their way, but LHO might want to bid 3♥ or 3♦. It also helps partner with the lead, which looks pretty important.

[CSGibson]

ok. If you raise to 3 (my action at the table), the auction comes back around, X by lefty, pass from partner, tank then 4♣ from righty. Take any action now?

[gwnn]

CSGibson, on 2013-February-19, 09:44, said:

ok. If you raise to 3 (my action at the table), the auction comes back around, X by lefty, pass from partner, tank then 4♣ from righty. Take any action now?

no thanks.

[WellSpyder]

CSGibson, on 2013-February-19, 09:44, said:

ok. If you raise to 3 (my action at the table), the auction comes back around, X by lefty, pass from partner, tank then 4♣ from righty. Take any action now?

One potential action would be to ask how they play the double.

[kenrexford]

I don't get it. You have the easiest 3♥ call ever. The opponents just thought it over and opted for the contract you want -- four of a minor. Passing now is too obvious for comment. Maybe you are suggesting popping a cava?

[CSGibson]

WellSpyder, on 2013-February-19, 11:34, said:

One potential action would be to ask how they play the double.

Max with defense.

[CSGibson]

kenrexford, on 2013-February-19, 11:38, said:

I don't get it. You have the easiest 3♥ call ever. The opponents just thought it over and opted for the contract you want -- four of a minor. Passing now is too obvious for comment. Maybe you are suggesting popping a cava?

Nah, we lost imps on the board because 4H makes - partner has T9xx QJTxxx AQx -, and everything works even if they do get the spade ruff. Teammates found the 5C sac when they bid 4H on a very different sequence (still initial pass from partner, but N bidding 3H then 4H on their own when E preempted 3C instead of opening 1, with W balancing them into game), 300 away while we went +50.

I was just trying to see if anyone thought that the marked double major suit fit (I think partner implies spades here) was worth an initial 4H call instead of 3H.

[PhilKing]

Perhaps partner had their hand missorted when they failed to bid game.

[relknes]

3♥ is clear.
Next, pass is also clear.
Partner may have considered bidding 4♥, given their 6 loser hand, but you have shown your hand and your support. The ball was in partner's court, and they passed, so you need something special to bid again, and your 9 loser hand doesn't qualify.

[akhare]

3♥ / P

[the hog]

Did your partner forget that 2 level opening bids are allowed in his game? What happened to 2H?

[CSGibson]

the hog, on 2013-February-19, 18:15, said:

Did your partner forget that 2 level opening bids are allowed in his game? What happened to 2H?

2H 2nd seat at equal vulnerability with a side 4 card major and two outside first round controls is not a good bid, in my opinion.

[kenrexford]

CSGibson, on 2013-February-19, 11:50, said:

I was just trying to see if anyone thought that the marked double major suit fit (I think partner implies spades here) was worth an initial 4H call instead of 3H.

The vulnerability is wrong to be assured. If we were red on white, then partner is implying spades, because he needs a reason to be bidding here. White-on-white, less so. You get off 1NT with cause.

In fact, 2♥ in this auction probably should imply a minor suit and tend to actually deny spades. Why?

As a passed hand, all arguments against a heart-spade ELC double fall away. Hence, partner with 5-6♥/4♠ could double. Accordingly, a 2♥ showing 5-6♥/4♠ would be redundant. More likely is 5♥ and a minor. Hence, this auction probably should call for this defense:

X = three-suited or HEART-spade canape
2minor = natural
2MAJOR = Cappelletti
2NT = minors


EDIT: I just realized that you would probably also double with a SPADE-heart canape.