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#1 User is offline   barsikb 

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Posted 2013-February-17, 07:35

Pass-1-Dbl-Pass-?



Strong enough for jumping to 3?
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Posted 2013-February-17, 07:38


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Posted 2013-February-17, 14:29

2 for me.
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Posted 2013-February-17, 14:36

2 here as well. It is just shy of a 3 bid. Another point or another diamond and I will jump to 3, and if you switch the spades and clubs I would consider it (since partner's assumed spade shortage is likely to be working) though I would be much more likely to do so if I was bidding a major suit.
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Posted 2013-February-17, 14:56

IMO, yes, opposite reasonable takeout doubles it is a 3D advance. Unfortunately even that would probably not get us to 3NT, for partner would pass 3D unless really inspired. 2D would never get us there.
"Bidding Spades to show spades can work well." (Kenberg)
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Posted 2013-February-17, 15:47

View Postaguahombre, on 2013-February-17, 14:56, said:

IMO, yes, opposite reasonable takeout doubles it is a 3D advance. Unfortunately even that would probably not get us to 3NT, for partner would pass 3D unless really inspired. 2D would never get us there.


This. South would have to take a view to bid 3NT with that 14 opposite a passed hand (after 3). It's not insane, but I'd only do it if I was sure we needed a swing.
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Posted 2013-February-17, 19:19

Put the Heart Queen in clubs, for instance, and partner would have done well not to be inspired, but if Advancer had an extra diamond ---oh, well :rolleyes:
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Posted 2013-February-18, 04:10

It is close, I would.

I am a passed hand, so my upper limit is below opening bid strengh.

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Posted 2013-February-18, 04:43

2 for me, but I wouldn't shout at anyone who bid 3.
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Posted 2013-February-18, 06:49

This is an interesting one because it shows one of the changes in responding to a takeout double in the last 70 years. I am also with the 2 bidders and think this is normal now. However, I learned bridge from Culbertson books and in that style (if I can trust my memory for once) this would be a 3 advance even without being a passed hand. 8 hcp does not usually make game opposite a weak NT.
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Posted 2013-February-18, 09:03

Thank you to all of you. For a change my opinion was same as of the experts: not to jump to 3

And even though on this hand 3NT would be ice-cold we should not make decisions based on that, right?
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Posted 2013-February-18, 11:47

View Postbarsikb, on 2013-February-18, 09:03, said:

And even though on this hand 3NT would be ice-cold we should not make decisions based on that, right?


Right, that's called "playing results". Some games are simply not meant to be bid. "Just a magic hand" is what my partner and I say when we score an unlikely +150 or 170.

Sometimes I say "Meckwell would have bid it," referring to the expert pair well-known for regularly making game on 22 points. In my partnerships that means, "No one in their right mind would bid that game." :P
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Posted 2013-February-19, 08:25

GreenMan, I'll just call them "Magic Hands" from now on :)
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