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#1 User is offline   Fluffy 

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Posted 2013-February-16, 16:49

♠4
♥QJ10987652
♦7
♣J6

All vul, IMPs

you make the dubious decision of opening 4♥ at seocnd position. It goes:

(pass)-4♥-(4♠)-double
(pass)

anything else to say?
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Posted 2013-February-16, 18:10

View PostFluffy, on 2013-February-16, 16:49, said:

All vul, IMPs ♠ 4 ♥ QJ10987652 ♦ 7 ♣ J6
(pass)-4♥-(4♠)-double
(pass)
anything else to say?
IMO Pass = 10, 5♥ = 8. The double is non-consultative but, as fluffy implies, It is tempting to pull, especially it you want a new partner.
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Posted 2013-February-16, 18:22

I don't really see much point in pulling.

Although our "D" is low we are not exactly brimming with "O". 5♥ will be no picnic.
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Posted 2013-February-16, 18:44

Pass.

So, we don't have any D. Did we advertize any D? I don't think so. Yet partner doubles. He has 4+ tricks on defense. If he doesn't that is his problem.

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Posted 2013-February-17, 00:23

+1 for Trinidad's comments.
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Posted 2013-February-17, 00:37

Obvious opening bid is obvious.

Absent an agreement to routinely pull doubles when you have 0 tricks and only leave them in with a potential defensive trick here, obvious pass is obvious.
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Posted 2013-February-17, 03:00

I don't think 4♥ is dubious.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2013-February-17, 08:11

if your p trusts you at all your 4h vul bid will at a minimum have
pretty darn decent hearts(2 losers max) if your p thought it
was a good idea to pursue a vul game in hearts they would
have bid 5h not x. You have no idea what the x is all you know
is that p thinks it is better to defend 4sx than be in 5h and there
is nothing so special about your hand that would make you
want to pull a possibly lucrative x into a minus.

IMO p = 10 (5h = 2 and shows a lack of partnership trust)
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Posted 2013-February-17, 08:47

View PostFluffy, on 2013-February-16, 16:49, said:

... anything else to say?

sorry, or
sorry, I thought you had your double
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Posted 2013-February-18, 08:15

Thanks, I passed and collected -1190, obviously partner's double was awful.
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Posted 2013-February-18, 08:35

Playing with a weak client there is a case for passing as dealer.
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