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Does this show distribution or reverse ?

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Posted 2004-December-20, 08:27

1) Assume you are playing "short club", e.g. 1C is 2-way , either natural with clubs or balanced, minimum or 18/20.

2) 1D opener guarantees 5 cards (with 4 diamonds and a balanced hand you open 1C anyways)

This is more or less the "standard" italia 5 card major, with some other nuances which are not relevant for the following hand.

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1D-(1NT)-p-(2D*)
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1NT is natural, about 16-18, 2D is transfer.

1st question
What is the difference between 3D and Double ?
a. Does 3D show a reverse ?
Or
b. does 3D show a distributional hand (consider pard already knows we have at least 5 D and generally unbalanced, according to the short club scheme) and double is a power reverse ?



2nd question
What do you bid here according to your previous answer?
Pass
Double
3D
Other
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Posted 2004-December-20, 08:55

Taking 3D as reverse when 2H/2S/3C was there for the taking is WAY too far-fetched for me. I would just take 3D as 6-7 diamonds, with the corresponding playing strenght and that's it.

In light of that, I would bid 3D. Nice hand for a good-bad 2NT, though.
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Posted 2004-December-20, 12:37

3D only shows a good D only. I would bid 3D.
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Posted 2004-December-20, 13:53

Chamaco, on Dec 21 2004, 03:27 AM, said:

1D-(1NT)-p-(2D*)
?
1NT is natural, about 16-18, 2D is transfer.

1st question
What is the difference between 3D and Double ?

In these situations generically I play:

Double = Values

Bids = competitive

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a. Does 3D show a reverse ?
Or
b. does 3D show a distributional hand (consider pard already knows we have at least 5 D and generally unbalanced, according to the short club scheme) and double is a power reverse ?


What do you mean by a reverse when only one suit has been bid?

3 just shows enough distribution and diamonds to want to compete to the three-level. Typically a seven-card suit or a good six-card suit with some outside trick taking potential.

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2nd question
What do you bid here according to your previous answer?


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Posted 2004-December-20, 20:06

1) Bid 3D, because you wouldn't mind playing there.

2) What do you open with 4-4-1-4?

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Posted 2004-December-21, 02:19

pbleighton, on Dec 21 2004, 02:06 AM, said:

2) What do you open with 4-4-1-4?

4-4-1-4 opens one club.
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Posted 2004-December-21, 05:00

Imo Dbl should be stronger than an immediate 3. You just want to jam their auction by bidding at 3-level.

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