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开叫5c后同伴持有22p,如何叫牌?

#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2013-February-03, 08:11

View Postjillybean, on 2013-February-03, 01:30, said:

We've just played a great game at our Monthly Unit Game (Teams), winning B, 4th in A and smoking some great teams on the way :)

Unfortunately no hand records so this is reconstructed from my poor memory for hands..





贴主是加拿大专家牌手,问题是:
开叫5c后同伴持有22p,如何叫牌?
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Posted 2013-February-03, 23:48

5C属于阻击性开叫,本着有局宕2的原则开叫的,这幅要叫进贯H是最大的缺陷,如果探查可能就要冒,PASS? :P
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Posted 2013-February-04, 00:07

View Postlycier, on 2013-February-03, 08:11, said:

贴主是加拿大专家牌手,问题是:
开叫5c后同伴持有22p,如何叫牌?


5h,就是问h控制,加级回答,
结局是6c或者7c
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Posted 2013-February-04, 03:51

五阶低花开叫必须符合“二三法则”,通常主套上只有一个输墩。开叫人同伴有5个快速赢墩,也就是说只要开叫人有第一轮H控制,联手快速赢墩多达13-14墩。

叫5H,问该花色控制情况(已经承诺6开叫花色)。由于如此的套长和满贯兴趣,分级回答关心的是一、二轮控制:5S无第一、第二轮控制/5N有第二轮控制/6C有第一轮控制。

如果同伴没有控制,你可以尝试叫到6N,希望同伴能有个其他次级进张。有第二轮控制一定是安全的6C了。有第一轮控制你可以叫6H续问是空门还是A,进而确定为7C还是7NT。
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Posted 2013-February-04, 04:14

View Post3ntmk, on 2013-February-04, 03:51, said:

五阶低花开叫必须符合“二三法则”,通常主套上只有一个输墩。开叫人同伴有5个快速赢墩,也就是说只要开叫人有第一轮H控制,联手快速赢墩多达13-14墩。

叫5H,问该花色控制情况(已经承诺6开叫花色)。由于如此的套长和满贯兴趣,分级回答关心的是一、二轮控制:5S无第一、第二轮控制/5N有第二轮控制/6C有第一轮控制。

如果同伴没有控制,你可以尝试叫到6N,希望同伴能有个其他次级进张。有第二轮控制一定是安全的6C了。有第一轮控制你可以叫6H续问是空门还是A,进而确定为7C还是7NT。

这个方案,我赞同,不过一般的尺度也就停在6甚或6nt上。
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Posted 2013-February-04, 04:33

View Postlycier, on 2013-February-03, 01:51, said:

Now trust the partner's opening with some pattern,so I'd bid 5 for cuebid showing the first control in ,and forcing a round:
1-if the partner cue bid 5,I will go for grand slam,7.
2-if the partner return to 6,it will be sign off.



这是我的跟帖方案,无人议论。大意是扣叫5,若同伴扣叫5就叫7,否则叫回6.
接着贴主,跟帖:

View Postjillybean, on 2013-February-03, 05:59, said:

I bid 6, worth it to see the look on partners face. Partner had something like J97 V 6 KJT987542 and made 7.
The other table did bid 7 (I'm not unhappy)


大意是:
我直接就上6,偷偷旁观同伴的脸色,唉,同伴持有:

全取13墩。
最让我难受的是其他牌桌真的叫上了7
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很多人清醒与直接叫上6

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View Postblackshoe, on 2013-February-03, 15:11, said:

5 (do you have a heart control?)-6 (first round heart control)-7.


blackshoe是bbo论坛主管桥牌法规等四个论坛的支持人,平素的意见是倾向与哈代的。
大意和3ntmk发帖的内容一直:
扣叫5询问控制,回答6=第一轮控制·,那就叫上7.

今天早上我去bbo打牌,遇到了这位取得佳绩的加拿大女子终身大师,我直接问道上述内容,她说·此进程·她们没有约定,所以直接6的。
不过她获得本月赛第二名,打败了一些叼着香烟的强大对手赛队!恭喜'jillybean !
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Posted 2013-February-05, 02:37

其实没什么可难过的,要是问H控制结果同伴是双张小,停6C以后OPP首攻小H你准备怎么打呢?直接蒙6C就没这个问题:)
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Posted 2013-February-05, 03:09

View Postyunling, on 2013-February-05, 02:37, said:

其实没什么可难过的,要是问H控制结果同伴是双张小,停6C以后OPP首攻小H你准备怎么打呢?直接蒙6C就没这个问题:)


嗯,这位女大师是难过了,没错,刚刚打完比赛一进门就打开电脑,写下了让她懊恼的牌面,实战中她是直接叫上6的,可以别的桌都是7啦。
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Posted 2013-February-05, 03:23

5d- 5h 但是5H后面很明显不能 7C, C有问题啊! 你单张CA 确定C没问题? 同伴 KJ 8张C 或者无K 9 张C就不开 5c吗? 5h 后应该 5NT! 告诉同伴只有C的问题了, 他自己看着办。 北家应该相信 CA在同伴那里,(没C大牌 不可以邀请大满贯的) 然后7C. 建议

5D - 5H
5NT -7C
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Posted 2013-February-05, 03:42

草花均分(21不能是30)是大满贯成约的必要条件,我想说的是,在这么高的阶次,这个无论如何是叫不清楚的。所以6或7,那个是对的呢?也许今天6对,明天7对,所以不必难过。
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Posted 2013-February-05, 23:27

;) ;) 敢直接5c,如果是临时拍档,建议立马溜之大吉。 :P
:D :D 如果是固定拍档,反正你们早已习惯了瞎猜乱想的桥牌,咋叫都能够承受滴 :P :P

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