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Posted 2013-January-31, 15:33
Double, 4♠, something else?
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Posted 2013-January-31, 16:09
Lets speculate a bit. East probably has 7-4 minors for his opening, West has 7 hearts most likelly this puts partner with something close to a 4261, we have fit, but partner is very weak, with 1 heart sure loser and many clubs o deal with, we can't expect any help from partner's diamonds. Losing 2 spades, 1 heart and 1 club from the start would be pretty normal.
I would like to make a penalty double, but I doubt double is penalty, partner might bid 4♠ with 4, but also possible is 5♦ if he has 3♠ 7♦ that would be awful. I think I would bid 4♠ just to avoid partner getting in trouble.
I would like to make a penalty double, but I doubt double is penalty, partner might bid 4♠ with 4, but also possible is 5♦ if he has 3♠ 7♦ that would be awful. I think I would bid 4♠ just to avoid partner getting in trouble.
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Posted 2013-February-01, 11:19
pass
p is exceedingly short in clubs but could find no call over 3c
this severly limits p power though there is no reason to assume it
drastically reduces their chances of having very long diamonds.
next we see 4h and that means p has a good chance of being very short
in hearts also further reinforcing the probability they have very long diamonds
and also a very weak hand. P probably has some minimal spade support
but if we picture a decent hand like
Qxxx xx Kxxxxx x
do we have good play for 4s??? we lose the first 2 tricks to ruffs and we still have
the trump A along with a heart and 2 other club losers to take care of. thats down
2 on a hand where the opps are going to lose 2s 2h and 1d and thats assuming we
arent x. I think it is too dangerous to bid on here since we could just as easily be turning
a + 50/100 for a -500/800 and p needs a much better hand for us to score + 620.
IMO pass at this vulnerability.
at favorable I would bid 4s not so much because I expected to make it but because there is
significantly less risk involved and it is extra insurance against the opps making 4h.
As an aside even if x were penalty I would not use it on this hand we have only 2 "sure" tricks and
it seems that we may be all too easily endplayed into playing spades from our hand.
p is exceedingly short in clubs but could find no call over 3c
this severly limits p power though there is no reason to assume it
drastically reduces their chances of having very long diamonds.
next we see 4h and that means p has a good chance of being very short
in hearts also further reinforcing the probability they have very long diamonds
and also a very weak hand. P probably has some minimal spade support
but if we picture a decent hand like
Qxxx xx Kxxxxx x
do we have good play for 4s??? we lose the first 2 tricks to ruffs and we still have
the trump A along with a heart and 2 other club losers to take care of. thats down
2 on a hand where the opps are going to lose 2s 2h and 1d and thats assuming we
arent x. I think it is too dangerous to bid on here since we could just as easily be turning
a + 50/100 for a -500/800 and p needs a much better hand for us to score + 620.
IMO pass at this vulnerability.
at favorable I would bid 4s not so much because I expected to make it but because there is
significantly less risk involved and it is extra insurance against the opps making 4h.
As an aside even if x were penalty I would not use it on this hand we have only 2 "sure" tricks and
it seems that we may be all too easily endplayed into playing spades from our hand.
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