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GIB bidding after 4NT Overcall seems wrong 4NT over 4S says 4-4 majors. Why 5H by GIB?

#1 User is offline   Cat1111 

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Posted 2013-January-29, 18:20

This is the first time I've used these forums so please let me know if I'm in the wrong place or doing it incorrectly.

4NT overcall after 1S Pass 4S is described in the MP Tournament today as 4/4 or better in the minors.

So why does my Robot partner bid 5H with 5 Q8764 K3 109876? He should bid 5C where we have fit.

Can the description of the 4NT overcall or the Advance by the Robot be corrected?

Thanks,
Catherine
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Posted 2013-January-29, 18:28

Just about every "unusual" 4NT bid needs to fixed, I've been passed in it way too often myself. Also, why does this only promise 4-4? I can't imagine ever bidding it with a 4 card suit in either minor.
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Posted 2013-January-29, 19:41

it has been fixed and is working great as far as I am concerned
had on in ACBL bot game
3 pass 4 4NT
we got to five of a minor making

better than what it used to be playing 4NT

but I think the description I saw was three suit takeout
logic would say bid five clubs and if two suited correct to five diamonds
then bot should know it is red suit two suiter
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Posted 2013-January-30, 10:17

View PostCat1111, on 2013-January-29, 18:20, said:

This is the first time I've used these forums so please let me know if I'm in the wrong place or doing it incorrectly.

Welcome to the forums. Please use the "GIB Robot Discussions" forum to read about and post issues with robot bidding and play. I'm moving this thread there.

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Posted 2013-February-01, 11:07

View PostCat1111, on 2013-January-29, 18:20, said:

This is the first time I've used these forums so please let me know if I'm in the wrong place or doing it incorrectly.

4NT overcall after 1S Pass 4S is described in the MP Tournament today as 4/4 or better in the minors.

So why does my Robot partner bid 5H with 5 Q8764 K3 109876? He should bid 5C where we have fit.

Can the description of the 4NT overcall or the Advance by the Robot be corrected?

Thanks,
Catherine


1 4 4NT is not defined currently.
1/2 2/3 4NT is defined as 5+5+minors
2 4 4NT is also 5+5+ minors
3 4 4NT was supposed to show 4+4+4+ in unbid suits. That's why GIB bidded 5 thinking there is a higher fit then clubs.

Similar for hearts unless 3 4 4NT is 5+5+ minors.

It will be synchronized in next version.

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Posted 2013-February-01, 12:19

Is there any hope for GIB to be able to play 4nt = 5/5 minors or 5/5 hearts/minor over 4 like most experts play?
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Posted 2013-February-01, 16:57

View PostStephen Tu, on 2013-February-01, 12:19, said:

Is there any hope for GIB to be able to play 4nt = 5/5 minors or 5/5 hearts/minor over 4 like most experts play?

its getting there
at least its take out finally
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