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1M (P) LR (3OM)
4m ?
Partner makes a limit raise in your major and the opponents interfere with 3OM
Is it better to play 4m as a second suit to help partners decision to bid on after 4♠,5♥
or to play it as lead directing?
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lead directing or 2nd suit?
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Posted 2013-January-16, 00:30
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Posted 2013-January-16, 00:50
jillybean, on 2013-January-16, 00:30, said:
1M (P) LR (3OM)
4m ?
Partner makes a limit raise in your major and the opponents interfere with 3OM
Is it better to play 4m as a second suit to help partners decision to bid on after 4♠,5♥
or to play it as lead directing?
4m ?
Partner makes a limit raise in your major and the opponents interfere with 3OM
Is it better to play 4m as a second suit to help partners decision to bid on after 4♠,5♥
or to play it as lead directing?
Opener is going to be on lead, so even if one thought lead-directing was more important than showing a side suit (and I don't), we don't need a lead director.
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Posted 2013-January-16, 01:01
Suit as I am leading.
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Posted 2013-January-16, 08:11
Ooops, I got that wrong.
1M (2oM) 3oM (P)
4m
LD or 2nd suit, or cue perhaps?
1M (2oM) 3oM (P)
4m
LD or 2nd suit, or cue perhaps?
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Posted 2013-January-16, 08:22
This auction looks like we will most likely be playing ourselves. So I would say that it is whatever slam try we would play in the uncontested auction (cue, natural?).
If RHO had raised so that the chance that we end up defending is bigger, I would say that it is primarily aimed at identifying a double fit so that partner can decide whether to compete to the 5-level. Partner will probably lead that suit often as it will be a good suit but it won't always be our intention to have that suit led - we might be happy with a lead in our first suit also.
If RHO had raised so that the chance that we end up defending is bigger, I would say that it is primarily aimed at identifying a double fit so that partner can decide whether to compete to the 5-level. Partner will probably lead that suit often as it will be a good suit but it won't always be our intention to have that suit led - we might be happy with a lead in our first suit also.
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Posted 2013-January-16, 08:26
4m = Ctrl cue
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Posted 2013-January-16, 08:30
Oops. Too late. Reply pre-empted by others while I was typing.
There is still a lot of difference between 1♥-(2♠)-3♠ -(P) and 1♠-(2♥)-3♥-(P). But it seems unlikely to me that in either case opponents will be competing further if opener bids game. This seems especially clear in the first case. Second hand made a pre-emptive bid, third had forced to the four level, fourth hand neither doubled 3♠ nor bid 4♠. Surely 4m by opener is a slam try. It may be slightly less certain in the second case but still it seems unlikely that a player who passes 3♥ in fourth position will suddenly decide to come in with 5♥ if opener bids 4♠. In either case I would assume that 4m is a slam try of some sort, first or second round control and extras.
There is still a lot of difference between 1♥-(2♠)-3♠ -(P) and 1♠-(2♥)-3♥-(P). But it seems unlikely to me that in either case opponents will be competing further if opener bids game. This seems especially clear in the first case. Second hand made a pre-emptive bid, third had forced to the four level, fourth hand neither doubled 3♠ nor bid 4♠. Surely 4m by opener is a slam try. It may be slightly less certain in the second case but still it seems unlikely that a player who passes 3♥ in fourth position will suddenly decide to come in with 5♥ if opener bids 4♠. In either case I would assume that 4m is a slam try of some sort, first or second round control and extras.
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Posted 2013-January-25, 09:55
After 1♠ - (2♥) - 3♥ - (P),
3♠ = min
3NT = choose one: a) choice of game, or b) Frivolous/Serious
4♣♦ = choose one: a) control cue; or b) natural slam try (second suit)
4♥ = choose one: a) control cue; or b) shortage
3♠ = min
3NT = choose one: a) choice of game, or b) Frivolous/Serious
4♣♦ = choose one: a) control cue; or b) natural slam try (second suit)
4♥ = choose one: a) control cue; or b) shortage
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Posted 2013-January-25, 19:57
After cuebid 3♥ showing ♠ fit, the opener rebid at 4-level showed a suit control,slammish with extra values .Because we have fond trump fit,what else for others?
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