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#1 User is offline   Yu18772 

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Posted 2012-December-12, 22:19

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1st - I noticed that gib plays 4th suit bid as natural, I just dont get why?
Also, imo Gib should bid 4!d (forcing) and let partner ask aces, in 2/1 auctions 3!d-6!d should not really exist.
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Posted 2012-December-12, 22:45

GIB plays fourth suit natural in auctions where responder has already bid 2/1, creating a game forcing auction. There should be no need for an "artificial and forcing to game" bid if you're already forced to game.
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Posted 2012-December-12, 22:59

Bradley- 4th suit forcing has many more meanings than just "artificial forcing to game" in normal bridge.
It allows to ask and show many hands, none of which contain the 4th suit naturally, and definitely does not contain 4 cards.
For example, one common use in standard 2/1 bidding for 4th suit is to ask for stopper for 3NT for example or show problem in strain choice...
Another one (like what was supposed to be on this hand) is to start a bidding where it shows 5-5 (by rebidding te 4th suit over partners bid).
If you have a +/- balanced hand with normal quality of the 4th suit there is no reason why you should not bid NT - in general thats the strain you would like to play in, not the minor.


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"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
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Posted 2013-January-17, 10:43

Thanks for reporting.

As that's not bug, but theoretical situation, it will be addressed for review and improvement of 4th suit use after given GF and therefore replies on this call by opener.

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