[sceptic]

what is good what is bad ?

if you were to play mud which of these is suitable

10 x x

10 9 x

9 x x

7 6 5

8 3 2

next question after I have some answers please, this is not about the merits of MUD, I am trying to establish what is a crap holding and what may be considered reasonable

[EricK]

sceptic, on Dec 8 2004, 05:14 AM, said:

what is good what is bad ?

if you were to play mud which of these is suitable

10 x x

10 9 x

9 x x

7 6 5

8 3 2

next question after I have some answers please, this is not about the merits of MUD, I am trying to establish what is a crap holding and what may be considered reasonable

If I were playing MUD and deemed this suit the one I should open and partner hadn't bid the suit, then I would (probably):

Lead low
Lead T
MUD
MUD
MUD

But there are various scenarios where I would lead high from 1 3 and 5

Eric

[Free]

Yes, what Eric said. Perhaps hand 3 (9xx) I might lead small but usually it's useless...

I must make a remark about the 4th holding (765): it's no use to lead the highest, since you won't make your 5 in trick 3. Look at the best case scenario: 7-8-9-10, 6-J-Q-K, and the Ace is still high. So there's only use of leading your highest when it's from 876 or longer.

[inquiry]

MUD is CRUD... drop it immediately.

Play instead 2/4 leads. With 2/4, you lead your 2nd highest (like in mud) from three, but next time you play low (your partner knows you ahve a higher card, and you have kept it in case it is important). With doubleton, you lead lowest then higher card, and your partner knows you are out (I assume he can tell the difference between 2 and 4 cards in your hand from bidding).

Playing this way, you can lead second highest from long suits (4, 5 etc) as an attitude type thing (not muich here partner), and low from better holdings.

As far as which one of those suits are good? They all look bad to me.

Ben

[PriorKnowledge]

MUD is the worse. Never lead the middle card from 3. Either lead the highest to tell partner you have no honors or the lowest to tell partner you have 3 or 5. Partner may need to make a decision at trick 2. The lead of the middle card tells partner NOTHING.

Agh... I can't believe people are still leading MUD. And good players, too. I don't know how many tricks I've won from MUD leads when RHO cashed the AK setting up my suit looking for a ruff from partner.

[EarlPurple]

just lead the card nearest the thumb.

Next question. How to be avoid being dealt an endless string of hands like these in an indy and getting an endless string of bottoms you can do nothing about.

[EarlPurple]

And the solution is: don't play in BBO indys