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〖现代叫牌工具〗纳吉进局试探约定叫

#21 User is offline   9Ayy 

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Posted 2013-June-02, 23:47

请教:1-2后,用了纳吉进局试探,是不是就没法再找的4-4配了?
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Posted 2013-June-03, 02:15

与库克什进局试探很像,区别好像就是一个44高花配合的试探。
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Posted 2013-June-03, 02:57

View Post9Ayy, on 2013-June-02, 23:47, said:

请教:1-2后,用了纳吉进局试探,是不是就没法再找的4-4配了?


是的。
鱼和熊掌不可兼得

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与库克什进局试探很像,区别好像就是一个44高花配合的试探。



不是。
牌理是:相比特定花色的帮张寻求,让同伴显示更优越。
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#24 User is offline   ambetter 

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Posted 2013-June-03, 21:22

很好的约定叫,学习了。
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Posted 2013-June-04, 00:26

这正是我一直以来想学习的,谢谢谢心烛老师给出的资料!
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Posted 2013-June-04, 02:14

好约定,学习了!谢谢心烛老师!
1M-2M后,进局试探,开叫人一般是中限牌力。当然,将牌已经配合,可以包括牌型点。
从安全角度,应叫人低限6P,基本能够完成3M。
2M上限8P,就有希望打成一局,这是对开叫人邀请的基本要求。
帮张试探,短套试探,长套求助花色试探(有大牌的3-4张套)相结合,体系设计完善。
1H-2H后,开叫人H5S4如何试探,未看到详述,有待明确。kokish高花进局试探里有这个序列。
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Posted 2013-June-04, 08:19

学习并收藏了,谢谢心烛老师。
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Posted 2013-June-05, 19:17

怎么样的套能算是帮张呢?
得知同伴的帮助花色之后 与自己手中那个花色的牌有什么样的配合才认为能进局呢?
请各位老师解答 :(
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Posted 2013-June-07, 01:22

我也喜欢纳吉邀局的设计,谢谢老师细化讲解
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Posted 2013-June-09, 11:54

2NT寻帮张,新花色是短套试局,学习了谢谢
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Posted 2013-June-10, 05:37

曾经把心烛老师这篇文章拷到别的网站分享,请恕不告而取之罪~
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Posted 2013-June-16, 01:04

View Postcreolophus, on 2013-June-05, 19:17, said:

怎么样的套能算是帮张呢?
得知同伴的帮助花色之后 与自己手中那个花色的牌有什么样的配合才认为能进局呢?
请各位老师解答 :(

寻帮张嘛,至少你要有一个大牌啊,既然是寻啦,那么一定是中限牌力啦,PD只要8P+,有没有废点的帮张花色就进啦,我自己乱说哦,还请老师们来讲解下哦。 :rolleyes: :lol:
低头不是认输,是要看清自己的路,仰头不是骄傲,是看见自己的天空!
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Posted 2013-June-16, 02:35

不知在说什么!不过含金量还是有的
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Posted 2013-June-30, 10:19

重新学习一遍能明白些,纳吉还是不错!
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Posted 2013-July-03, 14:01

这是二盖一书中改良的kokish应叫吧?
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Posted 2013-July-06, 11:40

1m-1M
2M-?
这里用纳吉可没那么好,因为开叫人已经叫出了一门花色,应叫人对牌力多少有些认识,这种认识比1M-2M-?进程要清醒很多

我举一个极端的例子
1c-1h
1s-2s

就是这意思!你用纳吉吗,显然不用
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today .我们实现明天理想的唯一的限制全因我们今天的疑虑。
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Posted 2013-July-06, 11:58

View Postjiaxiachun, on 2013-July-06, 11:40, said:

我举一个极端的例子
1c-1h
1s-2s

就是这意思!你用纳吉吗,显然不用


首先热烈欢迎您来到华人论坛。

对您举的例子,不敢认同,我是这样想的:


这个问题不极端,非常普通,2表示应叫人没有邀请实力,充其量不过就是少于9P的建设性加叫而已,带有半阻击含义。因为应叫人没有实力作出XYZ序列,示意同伴止叫。
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Posted 2013-July-06, 12:21

View Postlycier, on 2013-July-06, 11:58, said:

首先热烈欢迎您来到华人论坛。

对您举的例子,不敢认同,我是这样想的:


这个问题不极端,非常普通,2表示应叫人没有邀请实力,充其量不过就是少于9P的建设性加叫而已,带有半阻击含义。因为应叫人没有实力作出XYZ序列,示意同伴止叫。


我不是叫你怎么理解这个2s,而是说这进程轮到开叫人,就不必用纳吉了,因为前面的花色叫牌已经一定程度能使你完成对牌力评估的增加或减少。反过来1m-1M-2M大概也如此
The only limit to our realization of tomorrow will be our doubts of today .我们实现明天理想的唯一的限制全因我们今天的疑虑。
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Posted 2014-November-23, 04:53

再次复习,加强印象
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