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Does the double change anything?

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Posted 2012-November-30, 14:49



How would you play this on a club lead? Does RHO's double make a difference?
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Posted 2012-November-30, 14:56

I see an definite spade loser (since I'm not gonna play for the drop of the singleton K) and a 50/50 heart loser...

My plan is A, ruff , play a couple of just for yucks... lead Q hoping to find K onside and lose the third spade, hopefully to East.

The double decreases my confidence in the likelihood of this working, but I don't see how I can use the info to find a better line. Of course, that may be why (or because) I'm not an expert.
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Posted 2012-November-30, 15:06

I would guess RHO has both kings and play CA, ruff a club, 5 diamonds, and guess RHO's doubleton King of spades, falling back on the heart hook, which is probably failing for -1.
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Posted 2012-November-30, 15:19

View Postwyman, on 2012-November-30, 15:06, said:

I would guess RHO has both kings and play CA, ruff a club, 5 diamonds, and guess RHO's doubleton King of spades, falling back on the heart hook, which is probably failing for -1.


This is the line I wish I'd found. The full hand:


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Posted 2012-December-01, 06:36

View Postwyman, on 2012-November-30, 15:06, said:

I would guess RHO has both kings and play CA, ruff a club, 5 diamonds, and guess RHO's doubleton King of spades, falling back on the heart hook, which is probably failing for -1.

Even better to play 5 diamonds immediately without telling East that you have a singleton club.
After 6 tricks it may not be clear to East to come down to three spades two clubs and two hearts (winning case) or two spades and either two hearts and three clubs or three hearts and two clubs.
Admittedly the clubs are unlikely to be much of a challenge on the actual layout. .
You can always end after 5 diamonds in dummy to ruff the club then.

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Posted 2012-December-01, 11:04

What does the 5 diamonds do? I don't see it.
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Posted 2012-December-01, 11:39

Just gives you the extra chance that east discards incorrectly. If defenders defend DD, playing diamonds does nothing; ruffing a club and playing ace and a spade wins anytime E has Kx or W has K or either defender has a stiff K.

And rhm correctly points out that 5 diamonds before the club ruff also conceals your holding/plan.
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