[helium]

Hi i have a defence problem for you guys:))
please vote and explaine you play...........






sitting whit this hand:

Scoring: MP

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and bidding goes : pass-1♣-pass-1♦-1♥-3♣-pass-3♥-pass-3nt-pass-6nt-all pass......





your partner bid 1♥ so you lead a small hart...dummy appear whit:

Scoring: MP

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declearer play small from dummy, ♥jack from partner and ace........
now he play ace of club and a small club to your king, partner played the 7 and the 5. std singnals. now what?????




pls vote and explaine:))

[arrows]

first I have to admit that I cannot understand declarer's play.

Anyway, right now, the declarer must have ♠K, otherwise you don't need
to bother anything at all. and must not have ♠J, or you already dead meat.

The choice is between a harmless small heart and aggressive ♦J

♦J is good in that it forces declarer make a decision which he wants to put
off. But he may think that with ♦K offside, there's no much chance
anyway...

Thus I will go with the legitimate chance, i.e. declarer has no diamond and cannot
make his contract by a finesse. In this case, south must exit with a small hearts..

declarer will cash both red winner before going back to his hand and run clubs,
but south can guard both singlton menace and his partner can guard spades.

[helium]

you have to think some more on this one, its not that simple:))

[luke warm]

♠Q

partner has a spade winner now or he doesn't, but in any case declarer can't get off the board without playing on spades - assuming he didn't have K, J all along

[inquiry]

Club play is confusing. But we will assume East is 4-2-0-7 or 3-3-0-7, with as arrows says, with the spade king (else play is really silly...and if partner has spade king, this is down). If EAST has spade king, diamond hook is 12th so, the diamond void.

East has 11 trikcs (6C+2H+1D+2S). I have guards in three suits (hearts, spades, and diamonds), partner in spades and hearts. I agree with arrows, exit a heart, and I keep the heart TEN and the diamond K.. and let partner keep just spade Jx...and thow his heart queen away...and the defense will be easy, as I will give count on first round of spades (which will be low to the king) and then throw all my spades away.. so partner will be force to thow his heart away.

And.. if partner only had Jx of spades? I would be squeezed anyway.

[EricK]

inquiry, on Dec 5 2004, 05:12 PM, said:

Club play is confusing. But we will assume East is 4-2-0-7 or 3-3-0-7, with as arrows says, with the spade king (else play is really silly...and if partner has spade king, this is down). If EAST has spade king, diamond hook is 12th so, the diamond void.

East has 11 trikcs (6C+2H+1D+2S). I have guards in three suits (hearts, spades, and diamonds), partner in spades and hearts. I agree with arrows, exit a heart, and I keep the heart TEN and the diamond K.. and let partner keep just spade Jx...and thow his heart queen away...and the defense will be easy, as I will give count on first round of spades (which will be low to the king) and then throw all my spades away.. so partner will be force to thow his heart away.

And.. if partner only had Jx of spades? I would be squeezed anyway.

This construction assumes partner overcalled 1♥ with Jxx QJxxx xxx xx. Is that plausible? And why would declarer not win first ♥ in dummy to try the ♣ finesse?

The bidding and play are really only consistent with declarer having a singleton A♥ - giving partner at least something like an overcall and declarer a reason to win the first trick in hand.

This in turn means that declarer can't be void in ♦ as he would then have supressed a 5 card ♠ suit.

Maybe he has a 3 or 4 card ♠ suit including the KJ and doesn't know that the ♦ finesse is winning (he probably thinks it's losing becuase of the overcall) or which way to finesse ♠ (again he may expect North to hold the Queen). He may hope for 6♣ 2♥ 3♠ and 1♦ trick.

If we retrun a ♥ declarer will probably discard his 4th ♠ or 2nd ♦, play ♠A and ♠K and then play for the automatic squeeze (which works against you even though declarer was expecting it to work against your partner).

If we return a ♦, declaler has a genuine guess to make. He can finesse, or he can go up with the Ace and then try to guess ♠. If he was planning to squeeze North, he may simply finesse the ♠Q now.

Eric

[Free]

Out of the chaotic writeup of the bidding, after I finally found my seat, I'll return a ♥ to finish what I started with.

[helium]

Hi guys:))
I know many of you are comfuset abouth the strange declearer play and you have all reason to, the opps are wery weak players in a wery strong feald.
But let me tell to how the play went on other tables and see if this make it easyer to forget the strange declerer play



agains 6 nt and 3 nt all south players lead a small ♥, and declerer play the KING of hart from dummy small from north and small. now he play CLUBS to the Q...........



this is the normal way to play this hand......



Now only diffrence from you and the other tables is that whit this play you cant return a small club......(whitch is a terrible return)





and remember opps are wery weak but dont underestimate them:))