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#1 User is offline   Yu18772 

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Posted 2012-November-07, 01:42

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It would be funny, if it didn't completely get on my nerves - it a long know problem - can you fix it ?????
Could you just add to his bidding algorithm a statement "if (partner bids 3NT) { pass }" - really it would work better than gib's current judgement.
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Posted 2012-November-14, 15:37

Several issues corrected.
- 2♥/2♠ mentioned in another topic is unlimited, limited now
- 2NT can no longer contains fit in shown major. With stronger hand GIB could pass through cuebid overcall or bid game directly. So 2NT is adjusted to 3rd in shown major and 4+ in other major. With 3-3 in majors GIB would bid directly 2NT as invite instead of double. It shows actually 3+ 3+ as minimum is 43 least in random major, but as unclear which is yet is provided like 3+ 3+.
So in particular case 2NT will show: Invitational to 3NT game -- 3 ♥; 4+ ♠; 11-12 HCP; stop in ♣
- 2NT is adjusted to 11-12HCP as with 13HCP GIB would bid game directly without majors or after if major is not matched.

So having this even after 3NT GIB would remain silent as there is no longer chance of hidden fit to be simulated.


There is more complicated issue where 4♥ shows 5+♥, but it will be fixed also. Not done yet.

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Posted 2012-November-14, 16:18

View Postgeorgi, on 2012-November-14, 15:37, said:

- 2NT can no longer contains fit in shown major. With stronger hand GIB could pass through cuebid overcall or bid game directly. So 2NT is adjusted to 3rd in shown major and 4+ in other major. With 3-3 in majors GIB would bid directly 2NT as invite instead of double. It shows actually 3+ 3+ as minimum is 43 least in random major, but as unclear which is yet is provided like 3+ 3+.

Why should allow 4+ in other major? With 5 in one major and 11-12 points, not 4+ cds in 2 majors , IMO it should free bid 2s here instead of double. So I think should show exactly 4 spade, not 4+ spade.

Also, why should it show 3 of opener's hearts? with say 4=2=4=3/4=2=3=4/4=1=4=4 shape I can imagine bidding double, 2nt. I think 2nt should show 4 spade 3- hearts (not 3 exactly hearts), 11-12 hcp, stop clubs.
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Posted 2012-November-14, 16:51

View PostStephen Tu, on 2012-November-14, 16:18, said:

Why should allow 4+ in other major? With 5 in one major and 11-12 points, not 4+ cds in 2 majors , IMO it should free bid 2s here instead of double. So I think should show exactly 4 spade, not 4+ spade.


Agreed re 4+ due the second level overcall 11+. Adjusted to exact 4.

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