Or was this hand another victory for the natural Weak 2♦. Valuable bidding space was consumed?
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Easy Slam Missed
#1
Posted 2012-October-27, 01:13
An easy slam was missed on this hand. How should N/S have bid this hand?
Or was this hand another victory for the natural Weak 2♦. Valuable bidding space was consumed?
Or was this hand another victory for the natural Weak 2♦. Valuable bidding space was consumed?
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#2
Posted 2012-October-27, 02:36
On the North hand I would start with double. You certainly don't mind if partner passes. Save the cue bid for hands with 5-5 in the majors (or other very shapely hands if you wish to do that). After North doubles and South bids 2♥, North can splinter with 4♦. Since South has a maximum 2♥ bid with nothing in diamonds, they are going to drive to slam after that.
On your actual auction it looks like maybe South should do more if 3♦ was game forcing. But it's hard because you have consumed two entire levels of bidding just to establish the heart fit.
On your actual auction it looks like maybe South should do more if 3♦ was game forcing. But it's hard because you have consumed two entire levels of bidding just to establish the heart fit.
#4
Posted 2012-October-27, 04:06
I agree with both of the above posts. The cuebid took up a lot of room. I play the cue here as asking for a stopper for NT and showing a solid suit somewhere.
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#5
Posted 2012-October-27, 04:15
Agree with the comments above. I would just add that I think South is worth a 5H bid (asking for diamond control) over 4H anyway.
Wayne Somerville
#6
Posted 2012-October-27, 04:20
Agree with the above posts also.
(2♦)-X-2♥
2♠-3♣
4♦(kickback in clubs)-
is a good start and trivially easy if you play 1430 as it now goes 4♥-4N(I have the Q and am interested but need something more)-5♠-6♥
(2♦)-X-2♥
2♠-3♣
4♦(kickback in clubs)-
is a good start and trivially easy if you play 1430 as it now goes 4♥-4N(I have the Q and am interested but need something more)-5♠-6♥
#7
Posted 2012-October-27, 09:43
Over a weak-2D, Roman-jumps are better.
That way the cue-bid ( 3D here ) is a stop-ask just like (2M) - 3M is in Leaping Michaels.
So, over ( 2D ):
3H!-jump = ♥/♠
............................ - 4C ( advance cue for one of the Majors as trump )
4NT ( 6 Ace RKC ) - 5D ( 1 key )
6H ( for pass-or-correct ) - pass
That way the cue-bid ( 3D here ) is a stop-ask just like (2M) - 3M is in Leaping Michaels.
So, over ( 2D ):
3H!-jump = ♥/♠
............................ - 4C ( advance cue for one of the Majors as trump )
4NT ( 6 Ace RKC ) - 5D ( 1 key )
6H ( for pass-or-correct ) - pass
Don Stenmark
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"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
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"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
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#8
Posted 2012-October-27, 09:45
Of course north should double first, but even after this random GF cuebid south should move more than he did. He showed nothing.
"What's the big rebid problem? After 1♦ - 1♠, I can rebid 1NT, 2♠, or 2♦."
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#9
Posted 2012-October-29, 07:07
TWO4BRIDGE, on 2012-October-27, 09:43, said:
Over a weak-2D, Roman-jumps are better.
You do not even need this. The simple 3♦ = stop ask; 3M = strong jump; 4♣ = C + M; 4♦ = majors is just fine for the average player. Whichever system you are playing, starting with double on the North hand appears to be indicated.
(-: Zel :-)
#10
Posted 2012-October-29, 08:11
Zelandakh, on 2012-October-29, 07:07, said:
You do not even need this [ Roman Jumps ]. The simple 3♦ = stop ask; 3M = strong jump; 4♣ = C + M; 4♦ = majors is just fine for the average player. Whichever system you are playing, starting with double on the North hand appears to be indicated.
Thx for the tip .
Don Stenmark
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
TWOferBRIDGE
"imo by far in bridge the least understood concept is how to bid over a jump-shift
( 1M-1NT!-3m-?? )." ....Justin Lall
" Did someone mention relays? " .... Zelandakh
K-Rex to Mikeh : " Sometimes you drive me nuts " .
#11
Posted 2012-October-29, 10:24
Of course there are other methods, but this time this should have been easy. North made a game-forcing cuebid. South has a contextual monster -- two strains that are great, a K-x combination, two KIngs? I would blast 6♣ rather than 3♥...Pass.
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