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#1 User is offline   CSGibson 

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Posted 2012-October-28, 00:20



You didn't plan your auction well, so you are stuck with this problem. Whatcha doing?
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Posted 2012-October-28, 03:45

This is MPs again I assume? No, this hasn't really gone according to plan :(. I double tbh, partner doesn't have to pass...rate to beat it.
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Posted 2012-October-28, 12:22

3. Don't feel strongly about it over pass (not sure X is necessary, any plus could be good). But the opponents don't know that we've messed up so I don't see a reason to panic and if LHO is short in hearts we don't necessarily have a great score defending. LHO's competition might suggest 5 hearts with partner and we're dealing with a 3-3 break in a bad situation hopefully.

Outside chance RHO was psyching I guess, but I don't feel like catering to that and really that just suggests 3.
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Posted 2012-October-28, 20:52

Double where are there tricks coming from? I have clubs, partner has the majors and I have an A & QJ in his suits. I'm sitting over Norths points in the blacks so they should only make red suit tricks, I can't see them getting 9. If pards has good shape (stiff D) then he'll most likely bid on.
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Posted 2012-October-28, 23:18

View Postbigbenvic, on 2012-October-28, 20:52, said:

Double where are there tricks coming from? I have clubs, partner has the majors and I have an A & QJ in his suits. I'm sitting over Norths points in the blacks so they should only make red suit tricks, I can't see them getting 9. If pards has good shape (stiff D) then he'll most likely bid on.

This looks like a normal layout:

Nine tricks for them and eight or nine for us depending on whether they find their spade tricks in time. I definitely want to bid but obviously we fixed ourselves by bidding 2 and cannot now play in partner's longer major. I guess to bid 3 anyway and hope for the best.
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Posted 2012-October-28, 23:26

View Postnigel_k, on 2012-October-28, 23:18, said:

This looks like a normal layout:

Nine tricks for them and eight or nine for us depending on whether they find their spade tricks in time. I definitely want to bid but obviously we fixed ourselves by bidding 2 and cannot now play in partner's longer major. I guess to bid 3 anyway and hope for the best.


This is not a normal layout for me. I would not bid 2C for the Majors with that pile of rubbish.
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Posted 2012-October-29, 00:45

View Postthe hog, on 2012-October-28, 23:26, said:

This is not a normal layout for me. I would not bid 2C for the Majors with that pile of rubbish.


Was about to post the same. Also he should rip it to 3, I've free bid 2 so he knows we have a fit, plus he's bid on shape not values (a crummy 7 count) so he doesn't have anywhere near the hand needed to beat this. Especially holding 2 diamonds he should know I cant have a trump stack.

If my partner doubles and passes 3 X with that hand this will get some discussion after the session. 4 points in the majors and only Kx in a minor, 4522 shape, aceless hand, all are reasons to not bid, given he has, he must know to remove the penalty double I've made.
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Posted 2012-October-29, 03:30

It's fourth seat white at matchpoints and he's a passed hand. Defending 1NT doesn't look great and there is a decent chance that 2 will hit something in partner's hand or at least drive them to a lower scoring spot.

Anyway, what do people think partner has, assuming we're playing with a 40 point deck? If he has more shape you certainly want to be bidding, not doubling.
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Posted 2012-October-29, 03:59

2 normal on the hand given. Tbh, I would hope that my partner would bid 3 if he had 5...I mean I have shown real , I don't class my double as penalties and it's MPs so I'm definitely not passing.
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Posted 2012-October-29, 04:35

passing out with 54 majors all white MPs? in my bible that is a capital sin

I dont wanna defend 3, so I have to bid, there is a chance partner might have raised himself with 5 hearts, so I take my chances with 3 now.
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Posted 2012-October-29, 12:25

3 now for Gonzalos reasoning. But how can I recover from my cardinal first sin?
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Posted 2012-October-29, 19:24



Partner's inspired balance led to a nice contract. Double dummy the defense can hit it one, but they didn't find the play to do so (which admittedly is not routine for a flight B player).
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