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Nice clubs when NOT playing gambling 3NT

#1 User is offline   squealydan 

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Posted 2012-October-15, 04:14

♠T.2
♥-
♦T.8.6.3
♣A.K.Q.T.9.6.3

My partner doesn't play gambling 3NT (not that there's anything in its place, just he doesn't like the bid), and I picked up this collection, as dealer, nobody vulnerable, imp scoring.

Thoughts?
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Posted 2012-October-15, 04:34

I would open 5♣
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Posted 2012-October-15, 06:59

I would open 3♣, even if I were playing gambling 3NT.
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Posted 2012-October-15, 07:05

5♣ here as well...
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Posted 2012-October-15, 08:14

It is highly probable that ops have a nice fit in either or both majors. But are they necessarily making game? Pre-diving with 5♣ feels overboard to me at equal vul. I will try 4♣.
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Posted 2012-October-15, 13:34

5♣ for me too. There is some risk that nobody makes anything, but 4♣ is not enough unless your style is quite conservative.
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Posted 2012-October-16, 04:05

the oppoents would be comforable to play in 4M, so lets not make them comfortable and open 5♣
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Posted 2012-October-16, 13:56

1NT anyone?
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Posted 2012-October-16, 14:17

View PostFrancesHinden, on 2012-October-16, 13:56, said:

1NT anyone?

And I thought Zia didn't post here!

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Posted 2012-October-16, 14:30

I am not advocating or even suggesting anything as far as conclusions. I merely am making an observation.

Let us suppose for the sake of argument that you open 1♣ with this hand. The risk seems to be that the opponents have an unimpeded auction to 4♥ or 4♠. This is true. However, if you open 1♣ and that does occur, the opponents may well run into an unexpected split in hearts (if that is the strain) and may well make assumptions about honor locations that prove inaccurate.

If you open 1♣, you also have the possibility that this is your hand, in which case 3NT might be a successful end contract.
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Posted 2012-October-16, 14:43

I would sometimes open 1♣ but usually 4♣. 5♣ seems like it will be down too much too often. Also if they overcall in a major, who is to say partner won't be quite thrilled with that as he doubles?
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