[Hanoi5]

Red vs White, MP's:

♠---
♥Kxxx
♦QJx
♣AQTxxx

(1♠)-???

All Red, MP's:

♠---
♥QJxx
♦QJx
♣AQJxxx

(1♠)-Pa-(2♦)-???

and?

(1♠)-Pa-(4♠)-???

[ahydra]

2C, X, pass

ahydra

[gszes]

2c no defense not interested in having p convert to penalties
2c ditto
pass dont want to gamble where we might easily be down 500 in
side suit tricks as soon as trick 4 and the opps nowhere near close to
their hcp limit. Bidding here is more las vegas then bridge. If we were
to x as our chosen competitive choice do we really want to defend with
this almost defenseless hand??????????????

[ahydra]

gszes, on 2012-October-10, 08:02, said:

[referring to the 2nd question, I assume] 2c ditto

That bid is insufficient

ahydra

[rmnka447]

First hand - 2 ♣

Second hand - Pass over 2 ♦ - even in SAYC, opponents are showing 22+ so pard can't have much (even less vs 2/1). And most of your points are quacks.

- Pass over 4 ♠ - here pard could have some values, but at the five level, it's too high to try to find out.

[ahydra]

rmnka447, on 2012-October-11, 16:19, said:

Second hand - Pass over 2 ♦ - even in SAYC, opponents are showing 22+ so pard can't have much (even less vs 2/1). And most of your points are quacks.

22 out of 40, yes, but if partner has a club fit and little in spades it may be more like 13 out of 30. Consider partner with Jx Kxx xxxxx 10xx, 3C is pretty much cold (may even make four). 4S probably makes too, but if you don't call you'd never find the good sac in 5CX. And that's not to mention the possible heart fit opposite...

I just think with the spade void and 4-6 in the other suits this hand is too good to pass. Even if partner has a complete bust, they make 4S and 3CX/3HX is down 500 at worst. R/W it would be different.

ahydra

[Fluffy]

double, double, and double, last one is close to 4NT, passing is ridicoulous IMO

[gnasher]

Double x3. I think 1♠-p-4♠-4NT shows a 5-5 two-suiter, so I wouldn't consider it.