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#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2012-September-17, 16:25

Has anyone ever managed to deliberately produce a stripey-tailed ape double? Intentionally, not just a hand where you messed up but managed to recover by your team-mates bidding the slam at the other table?
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Posted 2012-September-17, 16:31

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I like how you say that like everyone should know what it means. :)

I am guessing here, but you mean go down 1100 as an intentional sac against a slam?
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Posted 2012-September-17, 16:41

It's a double of a game when they have a slam.

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Posted 2012-September-17, 16:52

The term is called the "stripe-tailed ape double". The idea is that if the opponents are trying for slam, and you are fairly certain that they are going to bid and make it, but one of them has bid 5 of their suit along the way (blkwood response, or as a slam try), you double them, because 5 doubled + an overtrick (even 2 overtricks) scores less than a slam. But if they redouble, you "run like a stripe-tailed ape" to your suit and hope the sacrifice goes for less. Redoubled making with an overtrick outscores the slam.
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Posted 2012-September-17, 16:54

Ah, I've heard of that.

A rather fine line though, finding yourself in the situation with opponents competent enough to bid and make it but not competent enough to redouble you.
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Posted 2012-September-17, 22:55

I have only seen unintentional ones lol
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Posted 2012-September-18, 01:55

Never seen one tried or pulled off, but I have seen the opposite I suppose. Does this one have a name? Searching that link as we speak...lol

When you double the opponents in a poor contract, and they redouble, then you or partner thinks it over and pulls to a hopeless contract. Derp...
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Posted 2012-September-18, 03:37

I've only heard of 1 intentional one. I was listening in on a pair's post mortem and on one board, this guy's partner opened 2H, got a 3N overcall and he doubled with xxxxx Jxxx x xxx. That ended +3 for 850 (nv) when the opponents were cold for slam in 3 strains.
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Posted 2012-September-18, 10:57

View Postmanudude03, on 2012-September-18, 03:37, said:

I've only heard of 1 intentional one. I was listening in on a pair's post mortem and on one board, this guy's partner opened 2H, got a 3N overcall and he doubled with xxxxx Jxxx x xxx. That ended +3 for 850 (nv) when the opponents were cold for slam in 3 strains.

A perfect example. I hope it paid off for them.
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Posted Yesterday, 19:38

Cropped up today. Quite amusing. We ended up +2 for 2000 versus 1460 if we had just bid the small slam. Of course, if we were going to bid 7♥, East would have had the last laugh.

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