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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2012-August-30, 10:29

For the last, I think I will give the hand from my partner's perspective:

♠AQ98x ♥AKQ ♦void ♣T98xx

1♦ - 1♠
2♦ - 3N*
4♦ - ?

*Yes, you and I hate 3N, but there you go. What now?
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Posted 2012-August-30, 10:51

I'd just bid 5D, my hand is good if partner has a club void but I'm not going to cuebid for him with a diamond void when he couldn't jump to 3D, and I don't want to outline a club lead for the defense.
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Posted 2012-August-30, 11:06

I don't understand 3NT, the proble would be more interesting if we didn't know partner has 8 card suit maybe. 4NT is ridicoulous, and 6♦ also, so there is only one option left.
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Posted 2012-August-30, 11:14

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-August-30, 10:51, said:

I'd just bid 5D, my hand is good if partner has a club void but I'm not going to cuebid for him with a diamond void when he couldn't jump to 3D, and I don't want to outline a club lead for the defense.


I forgot to mention its matchpoints - does that change your mind?
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Posted 2012-August-30, 14:42

View PostPhil, on 2012-August-30, 11:14, said:

I forgot to mention its matchpoints - does that change your mind?


Maybe at MPs passing 4♦ to outscore 3NT is an option
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Posted 2012-August-30, 14:58

View PostPhil, on 2012-August-30, 11:14, said:

I forgot to mention its matchpoints - does that change your mind?


No. But I am happy partner got us out of 3N in that case since it was probably down, so I guess I'd be less likely to cuebid 4H and would just bid 5D
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Posted 2012-August-31, 09:55

Partner bid 4N which I think it is pretty awful - I expected soft cards and a diamond filler. Clearly I don't have solid diamonds, right?

I held Kxx xx AKxxxxxx void. 6♠ is interesting and makes - 6♦ needs 3-2 trump. No one bid slam, but they found the club lead vs 4N and beat it one, but 3N= is still a bad board against the 4♠ and 5♦ contracts in the room.
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Posted 2012-August-31, 10:02

I understand your blasting on the other hands.
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Posted 2012-August-31, 10:12

I would have bid 4♠ instead of 4♦.
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Posted 2012-August-31, 11:09

View Postcherdano, on 2012-August-31, 10:12, said:

I would have bid 4♠ instead of 4♦.


I thought about that too. I've never come across the bid before and I wasn't sure what the nuances were nor how partner would interpret it.

I think 5♣ might even be better and get across one of the main features of my hand.
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