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#21 User is offline   JLOGIC 

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Posted 2012-September-18, 06:46

your post was made at 5:30 AM pacific, 8:30 eastern
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Posted 2012-September-18, 07:00

View PostTimG, on 2012-September-05, 10:38, said:

I'm late to the party and not always able to reserve Saturday afternoon BBO time well in advance. But, I am going to try. And, I am surprised that there isn't a line of people waiting to play. The opportunity to play a match against good (great) players should be something that we're all looking for.


I agree in theory.
In practice, I am sadly out of practice and do not relish the though of humiliating myself on an international stage...
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Posted 2012-September-18, 11:54

View Postphil_20686, on 2012-September-18, 06:31, said:

What are the scheduled times atm? I am finished my thesis now, and am available pretty much all the time, although I live in the UK, so day times/evenings there are better than silly o clock in the morning :P

I can probably provide a partner, possibly even from the regular posters, depending who is available.

Also, I really struggle with time zones. I am currently living in GMT+1, (since its daylight saving time here), and I never understand when daylight saving is on or off in these discussions about time zones.

So pacific time is 8 hours behind GMT atm? and so seven hours behind UK time in the summer? Or does the US do daylight saving time aswell?

The start-times are usually 14:00 Eastern, which will including daylight-saving until 4th November. Usually 14:00 Eastern is 19:00 UK time, but the US clock-change occurs a week later than ours, so there will be one week when it's 18:00 UK time.

This site may help:

http://www.timeandda.../converter.html
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Posted 2012-September-18, 16:46

I generally try to include time zones when I give times.

Daylight Savings Time
PDT = Pacific Dayligt Time (USA West) = UTC-7
EDT = Eastern Daylight Time (USA East) = UTC-4
BST = British Summer Time (Great Britain) = UTC+1
CEST = Central European Summer Time (France, Germany, Italy, etc.) = UTC+2

EvilRegular Time
PST: Pacific Standard Time (USA West) = UTC-8
EST: Eastern Standard Time (USA East) = UTC-5
UTC: Universal Time Coordinated (Great Britain) = UTC+0
CET: Central European Time (France, Germany, Italy, etc.) = UTC+1

Note that GMT is deprecated. It is the same as UTC give or take a few leap seconds.

As Gnasher said the Cayne matches are at 14:00 EDT/EST depending on US daylight savings times.
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Posted 2012-September-18, 18:50

View Postphil_20686, on 2012-September-18, 06:31, said:

Also, I really struggle with time zones. I am currently living in GMT+1, (since its daylight saving time here), and I never understand when daylight saving is on or off in these discussions about time zones.

So pacific time is 8 hours behind GMT atm? and so seven hours behind UK time in the summer? Or does the US do daylight saving time aswell?


Those who deal with people from other countries should always state times in terms of GMT. It really annoys me when people say a time in some random time zone and others are supposed to do research to find out what it means.
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Posted 2012-September-19, 22:42

Are the dates going to be semi-regularly "every two weeks", or is it a bit sporadic, sometimes weekly sometimes two or three or more weeks apart? (I happen to be on a schedule where half my weekends work better than my others, and if it stays every-other-week, my next chance to try will be mid-december (but the 1st and 15th both would have been great.)
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Posted 2012-September-20, 09:38

View PostVampyr, on 2012-September-18, 18:50, said:

Those who deal with people from other countries should always state times in terms of GMT. It really annoys me when people say a time in some random time zone and others are supposed to do research to find out what it means.

Many people probably don't know their offset from GMT, either, so they'll have to do research regardless. In the US, I'll bet far more people know their offset from Eastern Time and Pacific Time than from GMT.

The JEC matches always start at consistent times in Eastern Time (2pm and 7pm), but the GMT start times will vary depending on whether the US is in Standard or Daylight Savings Time.

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Posted 2012-September-21, 00:56

View Postbarmar, on 2012-September-20, 09:38, said:

Many people probably don't know their offset from GMT, either, so they'll have to do research regardless.


I bet you are wrong from an European point of view.
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Posted 2012-September-21, 02:14

View PostCodo, on 2012-September-21, 00:56, said:

I bet you are wrong from an European point of view.

I bet he's not! I think most people have no idea that GMT does not change with daylight saving time. In the summer I always ask just in case. Iceland is one of the real GMT countries BTW.
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Posted 2012-September-21, 10:22

View Postgwnn, on 2012-September-21, 02:14, said:

Iceland is one of the real GMT countries BTW.


Wow and I thought they were otherwise quite modern and up-to-date.

View Postmgoetze, on 2012-September-18, 16:46, said:

Note that GMT is deprecated. It is the same as UTC give or take a few leap seconds.

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Posted 2012-September-21, 10:26

View PostSiegmund, on 2012-September-19, 22:42, said:

Are the dates going to be semi-regularly "every two weeks", or is it a bit sporadic, sometimes weekly sometimes two or three or more weeks apart? (I happen to be on a schedule where half my weekends work better than my others, and if it stays every-other-week, my next chance to try will be mid-december (but the 1st and 15th both would have been great.)


View Postmgoetze, on 2012-September-05, 10:16, said:

JEC is playing against Wales on September 15th and 29th, so we are only playing them twice this month (8th and 22nd). Then in October we can either resume weekly play or continue the biweekly rythm. I would like to invite further comments on this matter.

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Posted 2012-September-21, 10:28

View Postmgoetze, on 2012-September-21, 10:22, said:

Wow and I thought they were otherwise quite modern and up-to-date.

They don't have a train system so they can afford to miss a few leap seconds here and there. ;)
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