[pclayton]

MP's, club game - average opponents:

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Opponents are vulnerable, you are not:

Pard...RHO...You...LHO
Pass...1♣...Pass...1N
Pass...Pass...?

[Fluffy]

ok, let´s be honnest: pass.

I don´t see where do we go playing a hand without fit.

My decision will be at any vulnerability, but I supose those agressive dudes Free and helium will want to know it.

[flytoox]

pass, coz pd passed the firt round. Otherwise, I would venture a dbl.

[inquiry]

1♥ instead of pass.. now pass instead of bid.

[SirSatai]

pass is better level 2 can be dangerous with this kind of hands take out dbl easly will take you level 2 also

[pbleighton]

Agree with Ben - 1H the first time - now you are too late to the party.

Like to have a better heart suit, though.

Peter

[inquiry]

pbleighton, on Nov 19 2004, 07:42 PM, said:

Agree with Ben - 1H the first time - now you are too late to the party.

Like to have a better heart suit, though.

Peter

The time to be "frisky" is before the opponents have accurately described and limited their hands. 1♥ overcall on this is frisky, bidding later is crazy.

[luke warm]

pass both times

[mike777]

agree pass both times.

[HeartA]

inquiry, on Nov 19 2004, 03:00 PM, said:

1♥ instead of pass.. now pass instead of bid.

Agree with Ben.

[joker_gib]

Passssssssssss !

[Free]

1♥ in the first round.

Since I didn't do that, I'll bid 2♥ now...

[Flame]

WOW so many bid 1♥ with this hand, cant believe it, weak hand weak 4 card suit. I only do that with a better hand and a better suit, a hand which passing would be a problem.
Doubling now show a good hand with nice clubs, you got the clubs but miss few hcp, 2 more and i'd double, but here its a bit too risky.
About free's 2♥ this makes me think we play a different game.

[nikos59]

Pass on the first round -I like to overcall more
than the average person but this suit is not
at all attractive.

Pass now as well. Don't like it but I can live
with it.

n

[Free]

Flame, on Nov 22 2004, 11:21 AM, said:

WOW so many bid 1♥ with this hand, cant believe it, weak hand weak 4 card suit. I only do that with a better hand and a better suit, a hand which passing would be a problem.
Doubling now show a good hand with nice clubs, you got the clubs but miss few hcp, 2 more and i'd double, but here its a bit too risky.
About free's 2♥ this makes me think we play a different game.

KT8x is not a good suit? Yes, I also think we play a different game

[Flame]

Free, on Nov 22 2004, 05:28 AM, said:

Flame, on Nov 22 2004, 11:21 AM, said:

WOW so many bid 1♥ with this hand, cant believe it, weak hand weak 4 card suit. I only do that with a better hand and a better suit, a hand which passing would be a problem.
Doubling now show a good hand with nice clubs, you got the clubs but miss few hcp, 2 more and i'd double, but here its a bit too risky.
About free's 2♥ this makes me think we play a different game.

KT8x is not a good suit? Yes, I also think we play a different game

Not even close AK10x would be ok with a 13 hcp hand.
I reread mike lawrence's overcall book few days ago, and he would never bid 1h here, even though he is imo (and i think not only my opinion) a bit too flexiable on 4 cards overcalls.
But i said what i said about the 2H, a bid like that should be on a weak 6-7 card suit but a 4 card, not even a 5 card.

[Free]

I disagree, 4 card is enough, otherwise I'd certainly bid in the first round.

For once I trust my opps, that my LHO doesn't have any Major (perhaps ♦s). So what is the worst case scenario: RHO has a 4 card ♥ and LHO has a 3 card, and we found our 4-2 fit. However, chance is now quite big that partner will have 5 or 6 ♠s, and he might as well bid 2♠, playing in at least a 7 card fit.

HCP are about 20-20, so why doesn't anyone balance? 4-3 or 5-2 fits are playable imo...