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Minor siut texas explanation needed

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Posted 2004-November-19, 13:25

Hi,

Can someone explain minor suit texas to me please, I am curious how it differs from minor suit transfers and if possible provide a link and a response structure
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Posted 2004-November-19, 18:26

I've never heard of it. Maybe others have.
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Posted 2004-November-20, 01:30

Hadn't thought of it as Texas, but 3S is a transfer to 4C, and 4C is a transfer to 4D. We use this only for weak hands - slam interest we transfer with 2S or 3C, then bid 3NT.

We play weak/mini NT in the first 3 seats, so we haven't felt the lack of Gerber yet :) I don't know if this would make sense with a strong NT, but we've had some success playing it with 10-13/12-14.

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Posted 2004-November-20, 01:51

bidding went

Rodwell opened 14-16 pt 1nt, 2 spade was minor suit texas, then 2nt rebid by Rodwell indicated minimum hand and 3 spade bid indicated long diamond suit.

David bird called it minor suit texas, I was just curious what it was thats all, I was reading it is a magazine
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Posted 2004-November-20, 06:08

I played something like that years ago, sadly in spain we rename each convention as soon as it travells through the border, so I know it by transfer to both minors :).

1NT - 3x is used as a 6 card suit and slam interest.
1NT - 2 may be to play 3/ or having a good 5 card suit that may wanna play slam.

1NT - 2 - 2NT was defined as a very good raise if you have .


I do no longer play this, I have switched to something less complicated wich gives better results:

1NT -2/3 = transfer to /.

then
3/- 3/ = shortness, that way partner will judge to bid 3NT when having honnors in your shortnerss, or try to play 5/6 in the minor when he has nothing.

ok after here the easy ones, now the ones a bit less naturals:

3/ - 3NT = shortness in the other minor

1NT-2
3-3 = 5-5 in the minors GF.
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Posted 2004-November-20, 06:36

Seems like it's just some sort of "4 suit transfers".

If you open 1NT with 5 card Majors, here's a little tool I invented never to miss a 5-3 Major fit (together with other tools to find 5 card Majors ofcourse):

2NT = transfer OR GF 5-3M

Opener bids as if responder has s (step 1 = support + tophonour, step 2 = no support and/or no tophonour), and if responder now bids 3M he has a GF hand with exactly 3 card M and exactly 5 card OM (Smolen-like).

This way, with GF hands, if you have 54+M, you use Stayman+Smolen, with 5-3 you go through 2NT, and with less than a 3-card in a Major you can still transfer or use Stayman to find the fit. Otherwise, the 5-3 hands might give too much problems: you either transfer the 5 card and throw away the 3 card, or you ask for a 5 card and you throw away your own 5 card, or you have to ask the entire hand and give too much info to opps...
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Posted 2004-November-20, 11:28

sceptic, on Nov 19 2004, 11:51 PM, said:

bidding went

Rodwell opened 14-16 pt 1nt, 2 spade was minor suit texas, then 2nt rebid by Rodwell indicated minimum hand and 3 spade bid indicated long diamond suit.

David bird called it minor suit texas, I was just curious what it was thats all, I was reading it is a magazine

Well, sort of.

2 is a range ask (initially just showing a value raise to 2N) and 2N shows a minimum. Now apparently a pull to 3/3/3 has an extended meaning.
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