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#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2012-July-24, 16:59



1D is ostensibly natural, but partner tends to fake this bid sometimes with hands that don't have good 4 card majors. What say you here?
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Posted 2012-July-24, 17:24

3h
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Posted 2012-July-24, 17:43

3H if that would be understood as a splinter. 3D, otherwise.

If 1D tends to deny a good 4 card major, why not 1N by responder? It's not like we're going to end lower than that anyway. Makes your rebid here a bit easier, too. (because you'll open 1D instead of 1C)
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Posted 2012-July-24, 21:41

3♦

Is there any way to know if partner is faking the diamonds after, say, rebidding 2♣?

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


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Posted 2012-July-26, 00:16

There's no harm in rebidding 2♣ - the opponents have ten hearts or nine very good hearts at minimum, they would have to be incredibly dopey to not balance. Then you can bid 3♦. Now assuming he only fakes this bid when he has a decent hand (maybe he doesn't want to bid 2NT or the like without both majors stopped) - he should have a good idea of the sort of hand you have (you would probably double with 3 card diamond support - and a bad hand with 4 card diamond support would have bid 2♦ the first time) and place the contract appropriately.
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Posted 2012-July-26, 00:36

given the opp will have 9+h and decent hands if pard is less than gf.....I think 3h is a standout forcing to 4d.
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Posted 2012-July-26, 04:03

If you bid 2C/D, LHO bids 2H and partner bids 3H.

If you bid 3D, LHO bids 3H and partner doubles.

If you bid 3H, LHO doubles, partner passes.
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Posted 2012-July-26, 04:06

How many clubs did you show first time ?

I'd bid 3♥ which would show a 4045 or 3046 in our methods, hands with a singleton are bid differently, and I think I'd make the same bid playing more standard methods.

Pass over the X of 3♥ would show a really bad hand in context opposite a known heart void for us, so probably less than 7 working points and not a real load of diamonds. I'd bid 3N to show a minimum ish 3046 with a spade stop not expecting it to end there unless partner has a lot of heart values, but allowing partner to bid 4m to choose the suit.
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Posted 2012-July-26, 06:35

View Postmr1303, on 2012-July-26, 04:03, said:

If you bid 2C/D, LHO bids 2H and partner bids 3H.

Now 4♥ seems like a good description.


View Postmr1303, on 2012-July-26, 04:03, said:

If you bid 3D, LHO bids 3H and partner doubles.

3♠ now.


View Postmr1303, on 2012-July-26, 04:03, said:

If you bid 3H, LHO doubles, partner passes.

XX to show first round control (unless playing Yeti's methods).
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