[inquiry]

I agree.. this is not a 2♥ overcall. Simple as that, although I would double 1♠.

Ben

[jtfanclub]

Quote

QUOTE (flytoox @ Nov 18 2004, 12:01 PM)
Dealer:  North 
Vul:  E/W 
Scoring:  Unknown 
♠  
♥  AQxxx 
♦  Kxxx 
♣  Qxxx 

Hum.. I prefer to double 1S here. Heck even the_hog would probably double this

OK, so you'd rather he had...

♠
♥ AQxxxx
♦ Kxxx
♣ Qxx

You're still down 300, so what? Or do you double even with this hand?

Assuming partner has a spade void and ♥AQxxxx, which seems likely from the bidding, what do you think partner has that will allow you to make 4♥ or 3NT? Partner looks to have 7 cards outside of hearts and at most one winner in them. You have two discards for them in spades. That's still four losers.

[luke warm]

i'd have doubled with that hand, partner will tell me how good he is.... over 2s he can bid 2nt to show weakness (i bid 3c then), and any other bid is forcing... do people still play this?

[whereagles]

jtfanclub, on Nov 18 2004, 11:51 PM, said:

OK, so you'd rather he had...

♠
♥ AQxxxx
♦ Kxxx
♣ Qxx

You're still down 300, so what? Or do you double even with this hand?

Assuming partner has a spade void and ♥AQxxxx, which seems likely from the bidding, what do you think partner has that will allow you to make 4♥ or 3NT? Partner looks to have 7 cards outside of hearts and at most one winner in them. You have two discards for them in spades. That's still four losers.

So what..? What if he had

--
AQxxxx
Axxx
xxx

Good play for 3NT. I can never tell one from the other, so I bid game. It's imps and vuln after all, so..

[jtfanclub]

whereagles, on Nov 18 2004, 08:05 PM, said:

So what..? What if he had

--
AQxxxx
Axxx
xxx

Good play for 3NT.

It has no play for 3NT whatsoever unless your opponents are kind enough to lead a spade from Kxxxx(x) when you've shown multiple stoppers. You have 8 tricks, and no hope for a 9th before they run clubs.

[Fluffy]

luke warm, on Nov 18 2004, 11:59 PM, said:

i'd have doubled with that hand, partner will tell me how good he is.... over 2s he can bid 2nt to show weakness (i bid 3c then), and any other bid is forcing... do people still play this?

I at last do, we call this lebenshol .

[luke warm]

yeah, it's based on leb... so many conventions are that it makes me thing leb might be the best convention ever